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Other topics / Re: Furnace Tracker (for PC)
« Last post by ergoGnomik on Today at 08:32 »
Reasoning inconsistency:
Why would you use Win 3.1 today for everyday use if there are Win11, Linux and so on?
Yet, you are writing music for an obsolete computer. So why would you use Win 3.1 today? For exactly the same reason you use Enterprise today.

(or Music Box) either. It also uses square waves if I hear them well.
It has the capability to select sound style, so even if demo songs use only square waves, Music Box is bit better than you imagine.

why would anyone use other music writing software than Midiplay and Midiconv??
Because they want something different than Enterprise MIDI tools can provide? Like music in true chip tune style with glorious burbling arpeggios. Or actual digi-music. Control over the player update rate so not only 1/50th of a second can be the base time unit. Or, horribile dictu, mixing native DAVE voices with digitized samples.

Imagine this: there is a guy in the Plus/4 scene who writes his music A) for that cr*p TED sound generator, B) in Assembly to this day. Why does he do that? Because that way he has complete control over every aspect of the music. He can integrate it seamlessly to the other parts of his programmes. And that includes stashing the music data into little nooks and crannies of the memory if the main programme's layout results in a lack of sufficient contiguous area for the tune. He can leave out unused features from his player at will, so memory usage is minimized. He can update his player anytime he founds some problems or figures out some improvements, does not need to wait for someone to do it for him. And he doesn't even have to learn using an editor that is made by someone else who probably has completely different ideas what makes a good user experience. Neither has he have to circumnavigate possible limitations in such editors.

To summarize all the above, different people may have very different ideas about what they seek. The fact that something satisfies all your needs does not mean that the needs of everyone are satisfied.

You need to tickle a bit more your imagination. ;-)
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Other topics / Re: Furnace Tracker (for PC)
« Last post by szipucsu on Today at 06:52 »
Music Box 1.2 © 1991, Gyányi Sándor (download)
Rockdigi © 1992, DevilSoft (download)
And there are two more in the ep128.hu utility collection. Obviously, they are outside your comfort zone but nonetheless exist. So you don't have to imagine any. ;-)
Ok, but the easiest and most effective way to create music for the Enterprise is Midiplay and Midiconv. I do not see the sense of Furnace Tracker (or Music Box) either. It also uses square waves if I hear them well. Nowadays, why would anyone use other music writing software than Midiplay and Midiconv?? I don't see. Why would you use Win 3.1 today for everyday use if there are Win11, Linux and so on? Of course, Rockdigi is good for digi music.
So, I still cannot imagine why anybody would use other than the mentioned apps.
However if somebody is interested Furnace Tracker can be tried for fun.
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Other topics / Re: Furnace Tracker (for PC)
« Last post by geco on Yesterday at 15:11 »
And mostly used way by Szipucsu, create/modify midi's and convert it to EPM format :D
And the midi's with ENVELOPE.TXT can be converted by daveconv for a game friendly output also :)
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Other topics / Re: Furnace Tracker (for PC)
« Last post by ergoGnomik on Yesterday at 14:00 »
I cannot imagine any other methods to create music for the Enterprise.
Oh, silly me. I forgot the most obvious way to do it: write it in IS-BASIC. As you do it in your games, if I'm not mistaken.
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Konvertálás / Re: Szoftveres CPC emulátor EP-re
« Last post by Lacika on Yesterday at 12:55 »
Az durva, hogy ilyen sebességgel fut, valljuk be...
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Other topics / Re: Furnace Tracker (for PC)
« Last post by geco on Yesterday at 12:31 »
As far as I could understand, VGM in itself is an organized collection of register writes. Therefore, writing a player that you use to save those register writes again seems to be somewhat like wasted efforts to me. And then again, you have an unwieldy mass of register writes data like in the case with the SID files. Unless DAVECONV have some aces up its sleeves like pattern recognition and referencing to optimize memory use.
Yes, it is an organized collection of register writes, delay time is set, register, and value, as i remember, but for Daveconv we need all register values written in each 50Hz, so we get a mass of 16 bytes from each frame, and Daveconv will generate an envelope table, and a music data table from the huge register output file.
The problem with Music Box is, it does not handle special Dave effects (It is not a problem for me, because i will never write any music :D )
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Other topics / Re: Furnace Tracker (for PC)
« Last post by ergoGnomik on Yesterday at 11:02 »
One solutition could be done, create a VGM player, which saves Dave register values the same way as MIDICONV does, and then we could use DAVECONV to create music binary, and use the player of Daveconv.
As far as I could understand, VGM in itself is an organized collection of register writes. Therefore, writing a player that you use to save those register writes again seems to be somewhat like wasted efforts to me. And then again, you have an unwieldy mass of register writes data like in the case with the SID files. Unless DAVECONV have some aces up its sleeves like pattern recognition and referencing to optimize memory use.
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Other topics / Re: Furnace Tracker (for PC)
« Last post by ergoGnomik on Yesterday at 10:47 »
I cannot imagine any other methods to create music for the Enterprise.
Music Box 1.2 © 1991, Gyányi Sándor (download)
Rockdigi © 1992, DevilSoft (download)
And there are two more in the ep128.hu utility collection. Obviously, they are outside your comfort zone but nonetheless exist. So you don't have to imagine any. ;-)
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Konvertálás / Re: Szoftveres CPC emulátor EP-re
« Last post by SlashNet on 2024.May.17. 23:30:12 »
Tetris dotBAS

Nice colorful Tetris written on pure Locomotive Basic.
https://falcaucer.itch.io/tetris

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Other topics / Re: Furnace Tracker (for PC)
« Last post by geco on 2024.May.13. 13:22:46 »
One solutition could be done, create a VGM player, which saves Dave register values the same way as MIDICONV does, and then we could use DAVECONV to create music binary, and use the player of Daveconv.
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