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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #870 on: 2017.August.31. 08:03:20 »
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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #871 on: 2017.August.31. 11:50:38 »
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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #872 on: 2017.August.31. 12:17:59 »
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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #873 on: 2017.August.31. 22:01:48 »
I don't find new versions of Speech and Symamp for the EP SymbOS port, so I left here the links just in case somebody wants to test them.

And for the tracker files, now  I don't remember where I take them, sorry.

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #874 on: 2017.August.31. 22:15:20 »
I have a lot of problems ...
It would be nice to have a Hungarian topic (sorry :) ).

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #875 on: 2017.September.01. 06:23:59 »
CPC DSK compilation of tracker songs for symamp:


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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #876 on: 2017.September.01. 09:25:58 »
I think Tutus and many other users expected the 3.0 is the "full extra EP version" :oops: This is the reason for the misunderstanding :oops:

But Prodatron wrote: first 3.0 will released for all machines, then come specialized versions:
But there is still the plan to have the "expanded" EP version of SymbOS after the 3.0 release, which only runs on expanded machines (192K or more) and uses a higher screen resolution. This would always keep the #FF segment free for EXOS.
Then there is the question: when coming the expanded EP version? :ds_icon_cheesygrin:

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #877 on: 2017.September.01. 11:58:25 »
Still no working version of symamp?

I guess... if the problem is only the Enterprise identifier value because Prodatron added MSX1, may be the new identifier number is the former one +1...

Edit: Now I understand, it is a problem also of other SymbOS apps.
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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #878 on: 2017.September.02. 18:26:32 »
Still no working version of symamp?

I guess... if the problem is only the Enterprise identifier value because Prodatron added MSX1, may be the new identifier number is the former one +1...

Edit: Now I understand, it is a problem also of other SymbOS apps.
As I see EP identifier changed from 7 to 6.

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #879 on: 2017.September.02. 18:57:44 »
Here is the modified SYMAMP version, it should work on all machines, I changed EP identifier from 7-6, and MP3 Player should work on MSX1 also,

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #880 on: 2017.September.02. 19:54:31 »
Thanks!

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #881 on: 2017.September.07. 20:21:12 »
Found a bug :oops:
The "INS Lock" joy mode (for no mouse) isn't working :( In the last EP beta release it worked right.
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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #882 on: 2017.December.26. 20:02:14 »
This is an old new from October, but today I have found how Tmtlogic, a non profit dutch group of hobbyists, have developed an interface to connect MSX cartridge format peripherals to a humble CPC.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=15&v=vvlGBS3nNiY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plQf9_7zPSA

Of curse Prodatron is behind it.

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But surprisingly, much earlier than this I have discovered that Edoz and Prodatron contacted Tecnobites, the Brazilian firm behind the Moonsound(Yamaha OPL4) and Sunrise(Yamaha V9990) MSX enhanced cartridge clones renamed as Shockwave and Powergraph respectively.

Then they commissioned the construction of a Powergraph cartridge for the CPC line of computers. They where sold on August of this same year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFtcGITspwk

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Of course, both solutions have been implemented on the CPC port of SymbOS as you can see on the videos.

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Is possible an Enterprise version of that MSX cartridge adapter?. We have told about that earlier on this same thread...
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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #883 on: 2017.December.28. 21:13:44 »
I hope we can listen to these songs on the Enterprise soon. They sound cool, in mp3 format!

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #884 on: 2017.December.29. 01:04:44 »
Yes!! is that what I mean.

There are a lot of MSX I/O cartridges(interfaces) of all types. More common classical cartridges where floppy controllers or memory expansions-mappers, but also some game cartridges brought enhanced sound with a FM synthesizer, and then the stand-alone FM cartridge was released as a new standard, called MSX-Sound or the cut-down version, MSX-Music.

Some of the specifications of the Yamaha Y8950 chip used where:

20173-0

Impressive, but only in mono sound as the MSX line of computers never where released in stereo.

Some cartridges had a midi interface, sample memory, Mic, mono input/output sound, and a simple musical keyboard add-on.


The MSX line of computers had a lot of makers all over the world, and some reincarnations: MSX, MSX2, MSX2+ and MSX turbo R, every one with better video modes, sound and processor. Also there was a MSX3 standard planned, but think that the MSX turbo R was released in 1990, completely superseded by Commodore Amigas or Atari Sts.

The desire of enhancement of the MSX user base surfaced on the 90s with the video9000 and Moonsound cartridges, based on the supposed graphics and sound chips planed for the never released MSX3.  

The two cartridges have been cloned and enhanced several times, converting them on the de-facto new MSX standard. Prodatron has included them on the MSX port of SymbOS.

But recently, due to the actual retro-computing impulse, more and more new MSX cartridge ad-ons have been created, like the common IDE-CF-SD interface, RS232, USB, Ethernet, WIFI, MP3...., MIDI.....



Getting a MSX cartridge to Enterprise adapter could imply to have access to all these hardware....
« Last Edit: 2017.December.29. 01:21:08 by gflorez »