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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #480 on: 2014.December.17. 15:05:52 »
Will try it, but I have never used Youtube for uploading :oops:
After recording the video you can upload it to ftp. Then, I can download it and upload it on the Youtube. Or anyone else can upload it if they want.

(Ha felvetted a videót, felrakhatod FTP-re, én letölthetem onnan és feltehetem a Youtube-ra. Vagy más is feltöltheti, akinek van Youtube csatornája. De akkor kellene az ftp eléréshez a jelszó és felhasználónév, mert az már nem tudom, a régi-e, azt elküldheted privátban, ha felrakod a videót ftp-re. A magyar részt majd töröljük innen.)
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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #481 on: 2014.December.17. 15:39:45 »
Will try it, but I have never used Youtube for uploading :oops:
Record everything, including the memory test and ENTERPRISE logo and the way of loading SymbOs, it would be very instructive and interesting!
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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #482 on: 2014.December.17. 15:43:38 »
Yes, I agree! :)

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #483 on: 2014.December.17. 16:55:06 »
way of loading SymbOs, it would be very instructive and interesting!
It is loading too fast :ds_icon_cheesygrin:

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #484 on: 2014.December.18. 09:51:50 »
I tested the latest version. The floppy driver still not working on turbo machines :-(
On 6 Mhz, if the head already on the track 0 then the root directory readed but loading file (=seek head) not working.
On 7.12 and 10 Mhz always error 26. (Exdos original routines can work on any clocks :oops: )

And the SymCommander always start with Drive A:
I tried to remove A: from the system, then it is start with device not exist error, then going to F:
In the system at other points are the A: the default, for example when creating program shorcuts to desktop.
It is possible change the default at everywhere to the boot drive?

The drives how ordered? When I added the B then the order are A-F-B.
Then I try to remove A first and add again, for make F-A-B order (try to solve the default drive problem), but it is also again A-F-B.

Plus one more:
It is possible set the default directory for the programs?
For example \VIDEO for the SymPlay, \GRAPHICS for the SymSee, etc.

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #485 on: 2014.December.18. 10:12:16 »
So, it is now playable as well on the Enterprise!! You can download it here : TETRIS FOR SYMBOS
Found a bug in Tetris: if press Space the actual element stop in the air :oops:

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #486 on: 2014.December.18. 10:49:06 »
Found a bug in Tetris: if press Space the actual element stop in the air :oops:
Yes this is for virtually key it seems. Not Edoz's fault, mainly mine as there is functionality missing in Symstudio. Will be a new release soon and I'm sure Edoz will fix, along with more apps. In fact there will probably be a solid release mid january for those that want to try a little bit of symbos app coding.

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #487 on: 2014.December.18. 14:08:43 »
I tested the latest version. The floppy driver still not working on turbo machines :-(
Yes, I didn't work on this during the last time, so there is no update. I will probably have some time for this issue during the next days.

And the SymCommander always start with Drive A:
I tried to remove A: from the system, then it is start with device not exist error, then going to F:
You can save the current settings in SymCommander: Menu "Configuration" -> "Save settings". When you start it again it will select the correct drives directly. But I will do a better drive preselection, too.

In the system at other points are the A: the default, for example when creating program shorcuts to desktop.
It is possible change the default at everywhere to the boot drive?
Sorry, I didn't recognize this, thanks for the hint! I will fix this in the control panel. Are there any other points where it just selects A as default?

The drives how ordered? When I added the B then the order are A-F-B.
Then I try to remove A first and add again, for make F-A-B order (try to solve the default drive problem), but it is also again A-F-B.
That's done quite simple at the moment. Internally there are 8 "slots" for the drives. It will always search for the next free slot, if you add a new drive. So if slot0=A, slot1=F, and you remove A, then slot0 is empty, while slot1 still contains F. If you add a new drive now it will use slot0 again. You have to delete drive F too and then add all drives in the order you want. If it's important I can add sorting inside the configuration tool. Then drives will always appear in alphabetical order.

Plus one more:
It is possible set the default directory for the programs?
For example \VIDEO for the SymPlay, \GRAPHICS for the SymSee, etc.
That's a good idea! I am currently working on an advanced handling of desktop icons and startmenu entries (unlimited, +any kind of submenus, etc.), and this is what I will add now!

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #488 on: 2014.December.19. 10:39:55 »
A numb nut step-by-step guide for installing SymbOS on the SD card and get it running would be very much appreciated.

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #489 on: 2014.December.19. 10:52:18 »
I do it the following way:
From this package write the 256Mb VHD to SD Card with Winimage 9.0. It is create lot of empty partitions.
To the first partition root directory extracted this pack from Prodatron.
Done! :-) If you use a normal SD.

I write here how to for Micro SD.

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #490 on: 2014.December.19. 12:22:03 »
But I think will be great a SETUP program for the future versions (like as MSX), which are autodetect drives, can be set the directories and other settings, and it is create a right SYMBOS.INI for the current config.

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #491 on: 2014.December.19. 14:39:56 »
@Schombi: Did you already tried it? If you have problems, just write me directly!
@Zozo: Thanks for your support! A setup tool is planned, but it will probably take some time.

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #492 on: 2014.December.19. 15:03:40 »
Will try Zozo's suggestions. It´s not that easy for an EP128 noob ;-)

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #493 on: 2014.December.19. 15:21:26 »
Quickstart :)

After booting the EP you can type...

:DIR
-> shows the directory of the current drive

:X:
-> change to drive X (with the SD card these start with F)

LOAD"filename"
-> starts a program (for SymbOS use LOAD"SYM")

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Re: SymbOS
« Reply #494 on: 2014.December.19. 15:51:40 »
:DIR
-> shows the directory of the current drive

:X:
-> change to drive X (with the SD card these start with F)

Even more simple (in my opinion, I mean) to go to the EXDOS command interpreter by typing:

:EXDOS

Then you can use DIR, X: and "almost DOS like commands" without the : then. You can use HELP EXDOS to get the list of available commands (it would also work in IS-BASIC of course with :HELP EXDOS). The only difference maybe the LOAD, which with EXDOS is without the quotes, thus LOAD SYM simply. It would work in IS-BASIC too as :LOAD SYM as you can figure out :) LOAD "SYM" is a different thing (BASIC) and won't work too much as an EXDOS command though!
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