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Wanted / Re: Trying to contact ZozoSoft
« on: 2020.December.09. 19:34:00 »
Hi zozo!

Could you return my enterprise? Even if you have no time i can ask someone else to look in to it. I really want my machine back... please let me know how i can pay you. Thanks for your time!

Br EdoZ

Wanted / Re: Trying to contact ZozoSoft
« on: 2020.September.18. 13:41:00 »
Hi Zozo ;) did you received my response ? :) So yes.. what do you think?

Wanted / Re: Trying to contact ZozoSoft
« on: 2020.September.07. 11:15:56 »
Hi ZoZo!

Thank you for contacting me :D I send you a response as well! Hope you have time to read it.
It would be really nice to have a working Enterprise again. I asked Hans for a SF3 interface. He added me to the list, so i hope to receive that one as well!
So maybe now there is no need to do the modifications.. which save and effort as well!


Wanted / Trying to contact ZozoSoft
« on: 2020.September.04. 15:16:57 »
Hi Alll!

I try to contact Zozo, but i have a hard time reaching him. My Enterprise is still in repair and i love to get it back for some SymbOS testing.
The motherboard is broken, so i hope he can replace it and put some memory on the board as i need that for SymbOS. I love to pay him for this as well of course ;)

Anyway.. i try to contact him by email, and first i got a response but after i want to sent him a email back i get a message from the mail- server that it cannot deliver my email. :(

I did a facebook chat, a private message here in the forum, a slack message .. but not able to contact him anymore after our last contact.

I hope he is still fine? Does anyone else know how to reach him?


Programming / Re: SymbOS
« on: 2020.July.04. 19:48:42 »

Quick User Interface with Graphics for Symbos
Quigs, release candidate

It is the year 2000, November to be precise, Prodatron was writing the first z80 assembly lines for his Symbiosis Multitasking Based Operating System or also called SymbOS. At this moment in time, it was just a fun try- out, to see how a z80 home computer would behave in a multitasking GUI based environment.  Of course, those ideas already came up before the millennium, but finally it took sense for him to start this crazy project. Not long after this, the project became bigger and bigger and what was started with a small concept became a big z80 project.

One user, Trebmint was really excited about the SymbOS project and started to collaborate with Prodatron. Both became more and more active and because of inspiring each other, the project really started to grow. Trebmint thought it was better for SymbOS to have a good development suite so people could started writing apps for SymbOS (without the need to know complex things like multitasking). 

In the end of 2004 Trebmint released SymStudio and later named it Unify. Edoz was inspired by SymStudio and started to develop for it. This was again accelerator for Trebmint and so the magic began between those three people.
Trebmint inspired Prodatron to port SymbOS to other Z80 computer as well, to make the amount of possible users bigger but also to be able to release software for different z80 computers, which all share the same SymbOS operating system. This way other z80 retro- communities could take advantage of each other’s software releases. With lot of help from the communities (MSX and Enterprise), the ports became real and thanks to Hans (TMT-LOGIC) and Technobytes even hardware, like the G9K became compatible between different z80 machines. The focus for SymbOS today is to make it as fast and compatible as possible.

Today we are glad to announce that Trebmint is releasing his first release candidate to the public so you can start writing your own SymbOS applications! There are some tutorials on YouTube and there is even a chess example program. Quigs runs an a Windows machine. Extract the zip, set your settings in settings.txt and start quigs.exe
Download link

Programming / Re: SymbOS
« on: 2019.September.17. 22:33:34 »
Okay, we understand everything.
But we have a program for the Enterprise that doesn't do much. Play MP3, play video, play some games.
That's it. While MSX can send email etc. :(

Hi Tutu’s,

I am glad you liked my e-mail program  ;) It is not released at the moment ;) but it should work on the enterprise as well!!  That is the benefit of SymbOS. Only thing is for the enterprise is that the network hardware is still missing. In a way that is the reason why it is not usable on the enterprise. I really hope that this will be available some day on the Enterprise as well. And yes, then we need a supported driver as well.

I know Prodatron is still working on the 3.1 release. (For all supported systems, including Enterprise)
I will meet Prodatron on the Classic Computing fair in Germany this weekend! The e-mail program needs the 3.1 release as well because of memory fixes in SymbOS. Somehow I managed to make the email client so big I encountered this issue. It is my biggest SymbOS project in size until now.

And yes! I really need to do some bug fixes as well on some ‘old’ apps which have the color issues on the Enterprise. But this is because of a bug in the old development suite, Unify for SymbOS.  As Unify is obsolete and because of many reasons I work in Quigs now. (Which was beta released as well) But i still need to migrate/convert my old projects to the new envoirment.. time is the biggest issue here ;) But when done those issues should be fixed as well. And after releasing 3.1 I think the Enterprise system should be on speed again!

Programming / Re: SymbOS
« on: 2019.February.10. 15:33:22 »
Thanks for the reminder :D

Here a small youtube i did on SE-ONE, and EMAIL. It was recorded on my MSX machine.. but you can enjoy 16 colors as well when it is ready for the enterprise.
It is so cool to see all the hardware added to the enterprise ;)

My latest progress on the email client

Hardware / Re: SE-ONE music file player
« on: 2019.February.10. 15:29:18 »
Sorry for my lazy response on your questions. Very nice to see that it was working! The radio-app i did was "desgined" for 16 colors as i never could think that the hardware would be working on a Enterprise machine! That is crazy! I will try to do my best to see if  can change it and have it work for 4 colors as well! .. if the gfx9000 is working at least you can see it in 16 colors as well :D :D

Hardware / Re: SE-ONE music file player
« on: 2019.February.09. 22:58:37 »
I wonder. Was someone able to use the SE-ONE in SymbOS? And did someone test the FM radio app? If i remeber correctly there was someone that were able to test it and sent me an email about changing the 4 colors

Programming / Re: SymbOS
« on: 2019.February.09. 22:55:19 »
Welcome back :D :D

Programming / Re: SymbOS
« on: 2017.August.30. 21:43:09 »
Cool we have Symbos 3.0 :smt041 :smt041
What is the start button In Columns ? I tried all keys, but I could not start it.
Hmm, Flying, and Picture slider hangs Symbos, could be the reason I removed Symbos Disk, and attached my application disk to A: drive?

For Columns. You have to go to the mouse to the start text and press with it with the mouse. Or use the joystick or the special commands to move the mouse with the cursor keys. (see PDF manual for more info) Once started you can use the arrow keys to play the game.

For Picture slider: This application is very old and not the most stable one. Probably when you exit it it will hang. It was build on a very old version.
I will ask trebmint, he is the developer and could have a look to it.

Wat wend wrong with Flying?

Programming / Re: SymbOS
« on: 2017.August.30. 21:39:08 »
I think I know what happened, now I found the latest version of Symamp, and it does not work either, Enterprise identifier value is not in Symbos 3.0 or it was changed, this is the reason why Symamp plays as a CPC, and could be the reason of other 2 apps hang?

Yes the indentifier of the system was changed, because of support of the MSX 1 machine. Probably that is the reason in SymAmp! Good point! I think we looked over this issue.

Programming / Re: SymbOS
« on: 2017.August.30. 16:10:46 »

Fresh new bits are compiled by Prodatron! The FINAL version of SymbOS 3.0 is ready for download and installation on your beloved Z80 machine! In 2014 SymbOS 2.1 was released, which is now exactly 3 years ago! It seems that the same happend in 2007, also on 30th of august, at that time SymbOS 2.0 saw the light of day! Now 10 years later we can enjoy SymbOS 3.0! It’s really amazing how much time was spend on this project beside all the effort to continue as well over such long period! A lot has been changed since 2.1. Please remember this date in future ;)

Probably we forgot something, but the full list is here below!

Release 3.0 [30.08.2017]

Network enabled
  • Network daemon: The new Network Daemon application enables SymbOS for full TCP/IP based network and internet access includung multiple connections for multiple applications at the same time. Both TCP and UDP protocols within the transportation layer are supported as well as services like DHCP and DNS. The Network Daemon runs as a background service and can be used by any application via its network API.
  • Supported network hardware: SymbOS supports the DenYoNet (MSX), the GR8NET (MSX) and the M4Board (CPC) hardware expansions for internet access via ethernet or wifi.
  • Local host: A special local host version of the Network Daemon makes it possible to run all network apps even on machines without additional network hardware.
  • Tools and games: Standard tools like WGET, NSLOOKUP and NETSTAT have been developed as well as more complex applications like syMIRC and TELNET and even network games (see "new applications on the Symbos website").
Enterprise port
  • 4th supported Z80 platform: SymbOS has been fully ported to the Enterprise 64/128 machines as well. After the Amstrad CPC, the MSX and the PCW Joyce it's the fourth supported Z80 platform now.
  • FDC and SD card support: SymbOS EP contains a driver for the standard EXDOS WD1772 based floppy disc controller as well as for the "SD adapter premium" by Szergej Butov.
  • Standard screen resolutions: SymbOS currently supports CPC-like screen resolutions of 320x200 (4 colours) and 640x200 (2 colours).
  • Taskbar with own colours: Due to the capabilities of the Nick video chip the task bar can have its own separated 4 colours.
  • EnterMice and BoxSoft mouse support: Beside via keyboard and joystick it is also possible to control the mouse pointer with the BoxSoft interface as well as with the new EnterMice hardware, which allows to connect a proportional PS/2 mouse to the Enterprise.
  • 1MB support: SymbOS EP supports up to 1024KB of RAM. As a special feature of the EP version it also handles fragmented memory banks within the 4MB address space.
  • Adapted sound apps: SymAmp (by Geco) and Speech (by Gflorez) have been ported to the Enterprise "Dave" music chip; it's not AY compatible but it is able to emulate it in a good way.
MSX 1 support
  • MSX1 with V9990: SymbOS MSX is now running on MSX1 machines with an attached Graphics9000 or Powergraph graphic card (V9990), too. Of course enough RAM (128KB) and a mass storage device is required as usual.
Extended Desktop
  • Desktop replacement: The extension module, which could already be optionally loaded since SymbOS 1.1 on machines with memory expansions, now includes the "Extended Desktop" which now behaves more or less like the desktop of Windows 98.
  • Advanced icon handling: The Extended Desktop supports any amount of 4 and 16 colour desktop icons. Icons can be added (right click an empty area), renamed ("slow" double click an icon) and changed (right click the icon) directly inside the desktop via intuitive dialogues. Icons can be lined up, auto arranged, copied, pasted and deleted directly.
  • Nested startmenu entries: There is no real limit for startmenu entries anymore, too. Nested submenus are possible as well as any name and path lengths. Beside inside the "program" menu you can also add new entries and submenus on top of the start menu. The new startmenu editor application is part of the control panel.
  • Autostart menu: Beside the existing autostart option (control panel -> system -> autostart) you can also add as many entries as needed to the "Autostart" folder of the startmenu. All these entries will be automatically executed after booting.
  • Desktop widgets: Widgets are little applications, which are integrated directly inside the desktop without having own forms. They are working like typical widgets known from existing desktop GUIs and smartphones (clock, weather, CPU meter etc.). They can be freely placed inside the desktop area and usually resized as well.
Operating system (general)
  • Help browser: The new help browser allows displaying and browsing through HLP files, which will be included now in many applications. Documents may contain nested chapters, links and different font types. The search function returns a complete result list.
  • Micro kernel: Process priorities can be changed during runtime; new slot/subslot switching function available for MSX hardware drivers.
  • Browse dialogue: File extensions will be added automatically when typing in filenames without a dot at the end. E.g. if you save a new textfile in Notepad and you don't specify an extension, ".TXT" will be added.
  • Keyboard presets: File extensions will be added automatically when typing in filenames without a dot at the end. E.g. if you save a new textfile in Notepad and you don't specify an extension, ".TXT" will be added.
Desktop Manager
  • Colour schemes: For a uniform look of the GUI the user can define a colour scheme, so that all apps appear in the same coloured way.
  • Full 16 colour support completed: All remaining GUI elements and form controls have been extended with 16 colour support, either directly of by using the user defined colour scheme.
  • Systray icons: The systray area of the taskbar can now been used by applications for adding and removing their own clickable systray-icons.
  • Context menus: This new feature introduces context menus, which can appear at any place within an application (e.g. on right-click).
  • 16 colour icons: Apps may contain an additional 16 colour version of their icons, which will be used for the desktop links of the "Extended Desktop".
Additional supported hardware
  • GR8NET SD card reader: With the network and SD card driver the important parts of one of the most powerful MSX hardware of the last time are supported in SymbOS.
  • M4Board SD card reader: The M4 makes it possible: First time, that you can access FAT32 32GB SD cards on the CPC in SymbOS directly in "highspeed mode".
  • HxC direct SD card access: SymbOS CPC supports the direct mode of the HxC floppy emulator as well. Using the internal FDC765 as a mass storage interface is slow, but you are still able to access very big files from a FAT32 32GB SD card - for the first time on a CPC.
  • Albireo USB mouse: The Albireo interface makes it possible to connect real proportional USB mouses to the CPC - and yes, again for the first time! SymbOS supports up to 3 buttons and the wheel. Gaming mouses may not work due to their enhanced USB protocol.
  • Rookie drive USB mouse: Nearly the same interface is available for the MSX: Beside other USB hardware the Rookie drive allows to connect real proportional mouses to the MSX in the same way.
  • MultiPlay Amiga mouse: You can connect original Amiga mouses to the CPC with the MultiPlay interface and use them for SymbOS.
  • Dobbertin Smart Watch: Beside the SYMBiFACE II RTC SymbOS now also supports the Dobbertin Smart Watch (real time clock) and its new clone. Together with the already mentioned new hardware it's now possible to replace the whole SYMBiFACE II hardware expansion - ops yes, for the first time - after 10 years :)
  • SE-ONE radio: Now you can listen to any available FM radio station with SymbOS MSX, using the SE-ONE and the new Radio application.
SymShell 2.0
  • TAB autocomplete: just type the first few letters of a filename or directory and SymShell will find the full name after pressing TAB multiple times; this is working for any nested subdirectory as well.
  • advanced COPY command: supports filemasks and complex path statements, uses up to 64K copy buffer and is able to copy multiple files into one destination file.
  • multiple file handling: for REN, MOVE and TYPE
  • new DATE/TIME commands: for reading and setting the actual time and date.
  • new ATTRIB command:: for editing all attributes of existing files.
  • file attribution flags: New options for all multiple file commands (COPY, REN, MOVE, TYPE, ATTRIB)
  • extended HELP command: SymShell includes a new help system based on a central "MAN" file. Type HELP for any details.
  • Path function: SymShell apps can use a special path function for merging user-typed pathes with the actual one.
  • System path: If not present in the actual folder the system will search for COM files in the system path as well and execute them there if found.
New applications
  • UnZip: ZIP/GZ archive uncompressor; the first Unzip implementation for Amstrad CPC, PCW and Enterprise in history thanks to the Gunzip MSX project
  • SymTel: Telnet client with ANSI, VT100 and VT52 terminal support
  • syMIRC: IRC client with multiple channel support (by EdoZ, using Quigs)
  • Wget: HTTP file download utility
  • Symple Messenger: proprietary internet messenger (by Trebmint & EdoZ, using Quigs)
  • Columns: Puzzle game (by EdoZ, using Quigs)
  • Battleship: this classical battle ship implementation is the first SymbOS network game ever (by EdoZ, using Quigs)
  • Snake: classic snake implementation; the first realtime multiplayer network game for SymbOS (by EdoZ, using Quigs)
  • Picture-Slider: classical puzzle game (by Trebmint, using Quigs); the first Quigs game which has ever been started many years ago
  • FM Radio: search for available FM radio stations and listen to them in SymbOS MSX (by EdoZ, using Quigs)
  • Performance monitor: system performance measurement (by EdoZ, using Quigs)
  • SymBUS: remote control utility (by EdoZ, using Quigs)
  • DiMon: simple sector dump utility
  • Ahead: batch utility for adding and removing AMSDOS binary fileheaders in multiple files
  • Network tools: NsLookup, Netstat
  • Desktop widgets: Clock, CPU Meter
  • Little demos: Bubble and Flying SymbOS demo animations (by EdoZ, using Quigs)
  • New professional SymbOS manual: The new SymbOS manual is designed and written by EdoZ and is available as a full-featured english PDF document. With a lot of pictures and screenshots this documentation makes it really easy to get started with SymbOS and its applications on any supported Z80 platform.
  • Upgraded website: The website has been extended with a new application area. Beeing database generated it's now always up-to-date and more detailed. A new area about the supported platforms and supported hardware expansions have been added to the website as well.
  • Files renamed: For an improved readability filenames of existing apps as well as of system files have been renamed, the old "app*.exe" and "cmd*.com" schematic isn't used anymore.
  • Bug fixing: Bugs have been removed as usual, including some very very old ones (e.g. releasing clusters in the AMSDOS filesystem driver).
Link to downloads

SymbOS website for download installation packages and applications.
Installation PDF
Edoz appstore

Programming / Re: SymbOS
« on: 2016.December.02. 13:51:31 »
Tetris waiting for the EP full screen mode :oops:
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Ops...  This is a bug. Work around would be to press on the - button ;) I try to fix it!

What about Columns and snake? Are those working?

My APP Store ;)

Programming / Re: SymbOS
« on: 2016.December.02. 11:52:48 »
Found bug in SymCommander: it is not see all files in directory :oops:
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This is not a bug but a feature. SymCommander is set to use less memory so you are still able to use SymCommander on a 128k machine.
You can change the memory settings and max items in SymCommander and save it if you have more memory in your machine.

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