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MSX Computers
« on: 2014.November.14. 17:59:15 »
On the whole I would assume that's because the CPC is a closed system in that the sound, graphics, fdc are the same on everyone. that's not the case with the 4000 differernt models of MSX. Its impossible to embed something that isnt standard

4000 ;) .. no .. not that much ;) but these movies are nice to see :D .. sorry bit of topic ;)

MSX 1 Models
MSX 2 Models

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #1 on: 2014.November.14. 18:27:57 »
Quote
MSX 1 Models
MSX 2 Models

Okay ... they are not 4000, it' true ... they are many ... :)
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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #2 on: 2014.November.14. 18:33:54 »
Ok, let's start MSX topic :-)

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #3 on: 2014.November.14. 18:39:19 »
Very interesting, in Hungary the MSX near to totally unknow in the 8 bit era.
I (and I think the most of Enterprise users) only read "MSX" at the EXDOS and ISDOS manual where some functions marked as MSX compatible.
Many years later at the internet time searched at the net: what is this mystic MSX :-)

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #4 on: 2014.November.14. 20:13:42 »
I (and I think the most of Enterprise users) only read "MSX" at the EXDOS and ISDOS manual where some functions marked as MSX compatible.
Yes, I read it 1st time and until internet last time in EXDOS manual about MSX :D
But most of us heard about CPC 1st time at the end of 90's, and we recognized that nearly all of Enterprise offical softwares are converted CPC softwares (which are not official spectrum conversions with some extra's)

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #5 on: 2014.November.14. 21:29:32 »
Very interesting, in Hungary the MSX near to totally unknow in the 8 bit era.
I (and I think the most of Enterprise users) only read "MSX" at the EXDOS and ISDOS manual where some functions marked as MSX compatible.

It was pretty rare in the UK too at the time we were developing EXDOS, but it was becoming big in Japan and it seemed it might in the UK too, especially as it had Microsoft's backing (the IBM PC and MS-DOS was becoming big in the business world). I think they were too expensive initially.

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #6 on: 2014.November.14. 21:44:04 »
It was pretty rare in the UK too at the time we were developing EXDOS, but it was becoming big in Japan and it seemed it might in the UK too, especially as it had Microsoft's backing (the IBM PC and MS-DOS was becoming big in the business world). I think they were too expensive initially.
But you followed MSX standards for EP floppy, which was the best decision I think. Do you remember for the reason?

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« Reply #7 on: 2014.November.14. 21:50:37 »
But you followed MSX standards for EP floppy, which was the best decision I think. Do you remember for the reason?

It was more following the IBM PC format for floppies and MSX also happened to follow it. But we did add boot sector tweeks to try and make the Enterrise as compatible with as many systems as possible who also started using this format eg. Apricot.

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #8 on: 2015.January.27. 09:09:24 »
Prodatron missed the MSX of my collection.
Now I have one :-)

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #9 on: 2015.January.27. 09:32:53 »
Very nice machine! One of my favorites!!!
Have fun with the Z80!

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #10 on: 2015.January.27. 10:55:14 »
And the story of this machine: the seller working at electronic waste collecting company, and he saved it from the electronic garbage!

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« Reply #11 on: 2015.January.27. 21:39:19 »
And the story of this machine: the seller working at electronic waste collecting company, and he saved it from the electronic garbage!

That is crazy! Does the floppy drive still works ? As it is the same file format as on the Enterprise you could try it out :D

In basic the commands are:

files
files "a:*.*"
files "b:*.bas"
copy "a:file.ext"to"b:"
load "a:filename.bas"
run "a:filename.bas"

To format a floppy you simply do:

call format
or
_format

if you have msxdos.sys and command.com on a floppy it will boot MSX-DOS 1
Then the commands like MS-DOS.
dir
copy a: *.* b:
if you type 'basic' in msxdos you go to the basic prompt. If you type 'call system' you get back to MSX-DOS1
Have fun with the Z80!

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #12 on: 2015.January.27. 23:15:36 »
Yes, both drive working :ds_icon_cheesygrin:

Thanks for your help! SymbOS successfully loaded :-)

Can you suggest some games and demos for viewing first?

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #13 on: 2015.May.15. 20:51:25 »
Ah, MSX-Computers, i love that system :D
Congrats Zozo for the NMS8280. It's a really nice system with the possibility to upgrade it to the MSX2+ standard.
Because of games: You should try some japanese shooters like Space Manbow. This game supports MSX2 and MSX2+.
The problem with MSX1 machines was the missing hardware scrolling. So games like Nemesis, Parodius and other horizontal scrolling games are not really looking good on MSX systems.
If you want to go further with the system you can connect the HxC floppy emulator. Also there is a great flash cartridge that you can get from france, the URL is http://www.msxcartridgeshop.com. And the most informations about the MSX systems you can get at http://www.msx.org

Personally i have one MSX1-system (National FS-4000, a japanese computer with internal thermo printer), a Philips NMS8280 and a Panasonic A1-FX MSX2+. Also a MiST-FPGA computer with an MSX-core :)

The MSX is a fine system, but it's nearly impossible to collect all variations of MSX-computers or MSX Software ;)

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Re: MSX Computers
« Reply #14 on: 2015.May.15. 23:52:52 »
the NMS8280. It's a really nice system with the possibility to upgrade it to the MSX2+ standard.
How it is possible?