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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #60 on: 2015.October.31. 10:43:47 »
Endi, ergoGnomik, and Zozo had ideas in Hungarian topic:
"The programs should run with any hardware and software extension (should be EXOS compatible)

Deadline for submission should be at 19th of may 23:59:59, the entries could be put here into a new menu point at the top. Voting could be done via mail during one week, after the mentioned menu point could be amended with the announcment.

That is no problem if a program takes advantage of more memory and faster CPU.
There could be an EP64 category, there are less RAM, and slower speed, EP128 category, and expanded EP category (we could decide it later if we have enough entries I think)

One oppinion from ergoGnomik:
The entries should be collected by someone, and made them public only after the deadline, certainly the owner of the program could send new versions until the deadline, if she/he made modification(s) on it.
Other from Endi:
The programmers can upload their entries continously until the deadline. This is not a real competition, it will be good to if somebody inserted a new entry.

It would be good to continue the discussions awhile, we could advert the start date 20th of Nov 0:00, so in this way the participant would have half year for preparing.

We could try to involve programmers from Pouët who search new platforms. I do not know if somebody has account there. If yes, we could try to invite "Star developers". I remember the following sceners who are apparently looking for "new" machines and have Z80 practice: Rhino/BG, Sdw, goblinish, but I am sure there are dozens who do not afraid from trying new hardware. "

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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #61 on: 2015.October.31. 13:54:10 »
Voting could be done via mail during one week
In the forum there is "vote" function. Would it not be easier?
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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #62 on: 2015.October.31. 15:46:26 »
In the forum there is "vote" function. Would it not be easier?
If it can be used for this purpose also then it is a great idea.

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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #63 on: 2015.October.31. 20:44:53 »
Endi, ergoGnomik, and Zozo had ideas in Hungarian topic:
"The programs should run with any hardware and software extension (should be EXOS compatible)
But you don't mean that all they should work on ep64, right?
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Deadline for submission should be at 19th of may 23:59:59, the entries could be put here into a new menu point at the top. Voting could be done via mail during one week, after the mentioned menu point could be amended with the announcment.
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That is no problem if a program takes advantage of more memory and faster CPU.
There could be an EP64 category, there are less RAM, and slower speed, EP128 category, and expanded EP category (we could decide it later if we have enough entries I think)
I really, really wouldn't want to put limitations... We could divide the entries into some additional categories (of courrse if the their number and funds allow it) but I don't want to limit people's creativity.
I really want to see many entries and then maybe even we will be able to see some true enterprise potential that couldn't be seen in the commercial era...

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One oppinion from ergoGnomik:
The entries should be collected by someone, and made them public only after the deadline, certainly the owner of the program could send new versions until the deadline, if she/he made modification(s) on it.

Other from Endi:
The programmers can upload their entries continously until the deadline. This is not a real competition, it will be good to if somebody inserted a new entry.
What will we choose?
I think endi's proposition is actually very similar to the second option I was proposing earlier ("liquid deadline", but there I was giving two weeks for the "deadline").
Then it would be more like grammies or oscars - I mean like giving prizes for best "products" of the last year.
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It would be good to continue the discussions awhile, we could advert the start date 20th of Nov 0:00, so in this way the participant would have half year for preparing.
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We could try to involve programmers from Pouët who search new platforms. I do not know if somebody has account there. If yes, we could try to invite "Star developers". I remember the following sceners who are apparently looking for "new" machines and have Z80 practice: Rhino/BG, Sdw, goblinish, but I am sure there are dozens who do not afraid from trying new hardware. "
The more the merrier.


So I guess the dates are settled.
But which "deadline" from will we go with?

I really want the competition to be very open and attractive for all, so that many people could participate...

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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #64 on: 2015.November.01. 09:29:00 »
But you don't mean that all they should work on ep64, right?
No, we should not limit the programs only for EP64, the hardware and software extensions meant that the program should work with any of them so it should be EXOS compatible.

I really, really wouldn't want to put limitations... We could divide the entries into some additional categories (of courrse if the their number and funds allow it) but I don't want to limit people's creativity.
I really want to see many entries and then maybe even we will be able to see some true enterprise potential that couldn't be seen in the commercial era...
I also would like to see many entries, and I hope some programmer from other platform will develop programs EP in the future also, from my side the EXOS compatibility is not mandatory it would be a recommended.

What will we choose?
I think endi's proposition is actually very similar to the second option I was proposing earlier ("liquid deadline", but there I was giving two weeks for the "deadline").
Then it would be more like grammies or oscars - I mean like giving prizes for best "products" of the last year.
I think Endi's proposition is that the programmers can submit their entries from the beginning of the competition until the deadline. I like Endi's idea in this way everybody can see the new items.

So I guess the dates are settled.
But which "deadline" from will we go with?
I really want the competition to be very open and attractive for all, so that many people could participate...
Which deadline do you mean? The voting, or the submission deadline? Because you mentioned here the announcement of the result would be on the birthday of EP, the voting can be closed before the announcement, and we need 1-2 weeks voting.
I would like it also.
I will ask the your questions in the hungarian part.

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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #65 on: 2015.November.01. 11:53:05 »
What do you think if we advertise the competition without strict categories, only with text categories will be chosen based of received entries, because as I see nearly all other thing is cleared, and the categories are depend on received entries, and our fund.
Or we can mention 3 categories (EP program, conversion, wild, which can be divided based on received programs)
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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #66 on: 2015.November.01. 19:22:26 »
I think Endi's proposition is that the programmers can submit their entries from the beginning of the competition until the deadline. I like Endi's idea in this way everybody can see the new items.
Yeah, and maybe with this option the participants would be more daring to post some wip info on their progress where they could openly ask for help etc... Also people would see that something (I hope a lot) is going on and maybe it would motivate some of them to also try something...
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Which deadline do you mean? The voting, or the submission deadline? Because you mentioned here the announcement of the result would be on the birthday of EP, the voting can be closed before the announcement, and we need 1-2 weeks voting.
I meant the submission deadline... Although I must admit that I don't remember waht I was talking earlier so I could mess them up...

What do you think if we advertise the competition without strict categories, only with text categories will be chosen based of received entries, because as I see nearly all other thing is cleared, and the categories are depend on received entries, and our fund.
Maybe that would be for the better. Because the categories are too much dependant on other factors that we cannot forsee/estimate at the moment

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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #67 on: 2015.November.02. 09:01:58 »
Yeah, and maybe with this option the participants would be more daring to post some wip info on their progress where they could openly ask for help etc... Also people would see that something (I hope a lot) is going on and maybe it would motivate some of them to also try something...
Yes, I did not thought about motivation factor, but it is also a good point :) , that was mentioned earlier on the hungarian topic, we could include into the invitation letter that help can be requested on the EP forum :)
In the Hungarian topic this solution also supported :)
I meant the submission deadline... Although I must admit that I don't remember waht I was talking earlier so I could mess them up...
I think the submission deadline should be one week earlier of EP birthday, then we would have 1 week for voting.
Maybe that would be for the better. Because the categories are too much dependant on other factors that we cannot forsee/estimate at the moment
Yes, it depends on incoming entries and our fund, I hope we will have both of them more than enough :D

I think we have all points closed which is needed for the invitation mail, or do we have any open points ?

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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #68 on: 2015.November.02. 20:10:45 »
There were a CPCRetroDev party which was finished yesterday :)
35 entry arrived , I would be happy if we will have 15-20 entries for EP :)

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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #69 on: 2015.November.04. 09:32:37 »
I think we have all points closed which is needed for the invitation mail, or do we have any open points ?
I think that we have all covered, but most probably something will pop up on the go...

There were a CPCRetroDev party which was finished yesterday :)
35 entry arrived , I would be happy if we will have 15-20 entries for EP :)
I hope so too. However all depends on how many "outside people" will join us.
We could do at least 5 on our own, I think...

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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #70 on: 2015.November.16. 08:47:55 »
Finally here is the English link for EP DevCompo :) Thanks for Tutus :)
I inserted the link to WOS : WOS EP link

Please distribute it also where you think it, just share here where did you distributed to avoid double / triple distribution on the same place :)
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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #71 on: 2015.November.16. 11:54:17 »
Finally here is the English link for EP DevCompo :) Thanks for Tutus :)
I inserted the link to WOS : WOS EP link

Please distribute it also where you think it, just share here where did you distributed to avoid double / triple distribution on the same place :)
Great, however the poster lacks the info about the possibility of donating to the prize poll... Remember that we'll need additional funds if we want to make the event  attractive for "outsiders" so they'll want to sacrifice their time for brewing something for a "new" machine.
I'll put the poster up later today on cpcwiki and speccy.pl (but maybe pear would be the more appropriate person to inform the latter).

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http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/other-retro/enterprise-devcompo1-'life-begins-at-30'/new/#new
http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,2271.0.html

I wasn't sure which subforum I should use so I put it in "Other retro" and "Miscellaneous"... Hope that wasn't a mistake.
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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #72 on: 2015.November.16. 12:05:18 »
I'll put the poster up later today on cpcwiki and speccy.pl (but maybe pear would be the more appropriate person to inform the latter).
I thought about it, but it's your idea, so you should to inform :)

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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #73 on: 2015.November.16. 12:28:00 »
Created topic at russian ZX-PK.ru.

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Re: Maybe we should organize a GameDevCompo?
« Reply #74 on: 2015.November.16. 13:52:44 »
Great, however the poster lacks the info about the possibility of donating to the prize poll... Remember that we'll need additional funds if we want to make the event  attractive for "outsiders" so they'll want to sacrifice their time for brewing something for a "new" machine.
I think it can be included in the forum, because there is a link to the forum for further details, we can make a new topic for it, or just include here.
The best would be a separate topix to the Entereprise DevCompo which is visible on the main screen, or a direct link in the main screen to the DevCompo topic.