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Title: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2016.December.18. 18:05:37
I've sorted out the mess at my PC and found few files what I've made.

Various EP Logos (made from scratch and have vectors files):

Function Keys Label I have posted here: https://enterpriseforever.com/other-topics/my-enterprise-64-128-the-story/msg32312/#msg32312

Label for SD card adapter:
(for printing)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: endi on 2016.December.19. 15:06:30
this is a very first and rough version of a printable 3d modell of ep
it is simply projected down (so the bottom is flat), because the original model is unprintable
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Zozosoft on 2016.December.23. 20:24:42
Various EP Logos (made from scratch and have vectors files):
Great work!
Can you also make EP64 logo?
And some others:
http://enterprise.iko.hu/eplogo.gif
http://enterprise.iko.hu/brochures/ENTERPRISE_PROGRAMS_logo.jpg
http://enterprise.iko.hu/brochures/ENTERPRISE_EXDOS_logo.jpg
http://enterprise.iko.hu/brochures/ENTERPRISE_COLOUR_MONITOR_TELEVISION_logo.jpg
http://enterprise.iko.hu/brochures/ENTERPRISE_MOUSE_logo.jpg
http://enterprise.iko.hu/brochures/ENTERPRISE_SPEAKEASY_logo.jpg
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: pear on 2016.December.23. 21:29:32
Little thing from me for Christmas :D
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2016.December.24. 01:41:25
Can you also make EP64 logo?

I made that logo too, but it lost from attachments.
(I'll trying not to breaking post again :) )

Also attach missed SD-card cartridge label

And, by the way, font used for text labels in EP style: "Geoslb712mediumc Bt Regular"
Or sometimes all "Geoslb712" fonts family.
You can see that font here: http://fontsgeek.com/fonts/GeoSlb712MediumC-BT-Regular

Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Zozosoft on 2016.December.24. 07:44:42
Wow! The SD label are fantastic!
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2016.December.24. 11:04:09
I have found that the complete name is Geometric Slabserif 712 Medium BitStream Regular, a commercial font  made as a modern approach to a font made on 1934, Monotype Rockwell.  


Quote
"The Bitstream version of Monotype Rockwell, 1934.

Twentieth-century design influence is revealed in strokes of more even weight than in the original nineteenth-century Egyptians or Slab Serifs.

Rockwell is a prime example of this twentieth-century approach. It seems to be a simple Constructivist geometric sans with strong square slab serifs added to. Angular terminals make its sturdy design particular sparkling. It is a strong face for headlines and posters, and is legible in very short text blocks.

Cyrillic version was developed at ParaType in 2000 by Isay Slutsker and Manvel Shmavonyan."

I think it will be easier to find a free "Monotype Rockwell, 1934" than a free "Geoslb712".
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2016.December.24. 11:21:53
this is a very first and rough version of a printable 3d modell of ep

This model can be perfect to make a key ring.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: endi on 2016.December.24. 11:22:53
This model can be perfect to make a key ring.

yes yes, I think the maximum size can be 10cm
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2016.December.24. 13:06:28
I have found that the complete name is Geometric Slabserif 712 Medium BitStream Regular, a commercial font  made as a modern approach to a font made on 1934, Monotype Rockwell.  

I think it will be easier to find a free "Monotype Rockwell, 1934" than a free "Geoslb712".

:smt023
I didn't made such research, but I was sure, that Geo Slabserif isn't original font, that used in printed materials for EP.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: endi on 2016.December.24. 13:16:05
who will print the first mini-ep model? (that I attached here)
(I have posted this on wrong topic)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: pear on 2016.December.24. 13:49:01
who will print the first mini-ep model? (that I attached here)
(I have posted this on wrong topic)
Me too :) So, will repeat:

I only watched the model. Can I have a comment ?
Can you export the model in a higher resolution ?
When you enlarge the current model texts are blurred.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: endi on 2016.December.24. 13:50:41
Me too :) So, will repeat:

I only watched the model. Can I have a comment ?
Can you export the model in a higher resolution ?
When you enlarge the current model texts are blurred.

i will make a higher res model soon
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2016.December.24. 19:36:30
Of course the Header of the Enterprise official notes, but I have cut it from Zozo's Enterprise information page, so it has a low resolution.


I think that this special "ENTERPRISE" typeface was created specially for the computer, I have not seen it on other place. The ELAN logo seems more like a solid Monotype Rockwell crossed by lines.  But with only four letters it is difficult to judge...

On the other side, the EP logo is an octagonal font, very different from the Rockwell type.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2016.December.24. 21:17:20
Can you also make EP64 logo?
And some others:

Some others:
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Zozosoft on 2016.December.24. 21:47:49
Great work!

Can you also make "ENTERPRISE Programs" as disk labels for a 3.5" and 5.25"?
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2016.December.24. 23:19:20
I don't have dimensions for 5.25" floppy label.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Tutus on 2016.December.25. 09:28:11
I don't have dimensions for 5.25" floppy label.

5.25" floppy label dimensions (http://www.enterpress.news.hu/5_25.jpg)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: ergoGnomik on 2016.December.25. 12:30:32
5.25" floppy label dimensions (http://www.enterpress.news.hu/5_25.jpg)
Not bad, but it lacks the other dimension. A rectangle has both width and height.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2016.December.25. 15:53:50
Better take another look at it, the dimensions are there.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2016.December.25. 22:15:56
I have found a typefont very similar to the ENTEPRISE logo, the Octin Prison regular, made by Typodermic on 2010.

Now that I have learned more about fonts I can say that it is octagonal, slab, serif and stencil. This modern font has the same shape, but the cuts of the stencil are on different places.

(https://typodermicfonts.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/octin-prison-a-1-scaled.jpg)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: ergoGnomik on 2016.December.26. 13:44:21
Better take another look at it, the dimensions are there.
You are absolutely right. I have to apologise to Tutus. Sorry, man. I would've never done it that way. Maybe I saw too many 2D mechanical engineering drawings, so I expected the dimensions to be noted along the edges.

However, I took out my stash of 5,25" diskettes and made some measurements on the content labels.

ManufacturerHeight [mm] Width [mm]
3M2868
maxell3270
Siemens-Nixdorf3270
noname2751
noname2861
TDK26~49.5

Edit: There was a mistake in column headers, which I corrected.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Tutus on 2016.December.27. 08:01:42
You are absolutely right. I have to apologise to Tutus. Sorry, man. I would've never done it that way. Maybe I saw too many 2D mechanical engineering drawings, so I expected the dimensions to be noted along the edges.

However, I took out my stash of 5,25" diskettes and made some measurements on the content labels.

ManufacturerHeight [mm] Width [mm]
3M2868
maxell3270
Siemens-Nixdorf3270
noname2751
noname2861
TDK26~49.5

Edit: There was a mistake in column headers, which I corrected.
Precise, precise :D
Which standard? :D
In addition, the mine was understandable ...
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2017.January.07. 22:47:07
Something like that:
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Zozosoft on 2017.January.07. 22:53:15
Wow! Very nice!
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: ergoGnomik on 2017.January.07. 23:26:47
Excellent job, SlashNet. They came out really nice. The second versions for both disk types are better. However, both wastes valuable space with the ENTERPRISE and INDEX tags. And I think the ENTERPRISE PROGRAMS header on the 3.5" version takes up too much of the already very limited space. I do know that there are inherent limitations in the original design. Yet, I wish there were a better solution. But no matter what, they are very pleasing to look at.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2017.January.08. 09:17:54
For 3.5" floppies EP Logo I can place vertically. But I don't think that index field must be very big.
Most photos of floppies (http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YwgAAOSwDuJWvKl7/s-l1600.jpg), that I see, contains only one or two lines of handwritten text. Correct me if I wrong.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: ergoGnomik on 2017.January.08. 12:14:10
For 3.5" floppies EP Logo I can place vertically. But I don't think that index field must be very big.
Most photos of floppies (http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YwgAAOSwDuJWvKl7/s-l1600.jpg), that I see, contains only one or two lines of handwritten text. Correct me if I wrong.
Yes, it is true. But it is mostly the result of not being enough place there to write the contents in detail. People simply gave up trying to cram all the information into such tiny spaces that the disk labels offered.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: endi on 2017.January.08. 12:17:52
nowadays we need sd card sticks too :)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2017.January.08. 12:23:39
Sticker for SD-card from sticker for SD-reader cartridge already exist. :)
I can give you printable version.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: endi on 2017.January.08. 12:24:34
Sticker for SD-card from sticker for SD-reader cartridge already exist. :)
I can give you printable version.

I use only the emulator :)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Ep128 on 2017.January.08. 23:59:07
I use only the emulator :)
Big blame! :-D He should be you for a real machine! :-)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: endi on 2017.January.25. 21:57:37
the worlds first mini-ep print, 10 centimeters size, .3mm pla
not a good quality, and it is not in my hand, my collegue printed it for me, he will give it to me next month when we will meet.

Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: endi on 2017.March.07. 09:00:26
low quality printed... :)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: geco on 2017.March.07. 10:48:04
low quality printed... :)
:lol:
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: endi on 2017.March.07. 11:53:27
white pla material, same quality :)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: endi on 2017.March.08. 16:48:28
with a z80! :)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2017.June.14. 19:14:17
Cartridge labels courtesy of my Spanish friend Sinclair200.

(http://retrowiki.es/download/file.php?id=200011092)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2017.June.19. 16:13:04
Thanks to the Enterpress publication, now I know that Támas Kiss (http://www.mcudevelopments.com/), the creator of the very professional Hungarian keyboard membrane(I own two of them), is also selling moulded copies of the joystick cap.

I have just bought four from him...

But he is also interested on reproducing other parts of the computer, the expansion connector cap, the heat-sink cover, and most interesting.....cartridge halves.

But he needs perfect originals to do it,  he lacks the expansion cap and his cartridge is crackled.

Surely some of you can lend him a nearly new cartridge and connector cap to make the moulds.

He writes me this:

"Unfortunately the parts in question are missing from my EP, so i don't have a sample to reproduce them. I have a cartridge, but there are cracks on it, so it is not good for replication.
I will try to get a good cartridge and expansion cap next week and make some tests for the "mass" production. I will contact you soon."

Please, hurry, contact him.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2017.July.01. 22:04:07
ELAN Logo
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: BruceTanner on 2017.July.02. 16:28:55
[attach=1]

Excuse the W, I couldn't find anything else with a W in, so I made it from half an N mirrored and joined together :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2017.July.02. 16:32:27
Printed W you can find here: http://ep128.hu/Album/Ep_Kazetta/Five_in_a_Row.jpg
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: BruceTanner on 2017.July.02. 16:39:49
Thank you Slashnet, that's better!
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: BruceTanner on 2017.July.24. 16:00:52
Compact Flash card:

[attach=1]
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Ep128 on 2017.July.24. 22:43:13
:smt041
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2022.April.23. 22:15:12
Some EP logos in SVG format

ENTERPRISE
ENTERPRISE One Two Eight
ENTERPRISE Sixty Four
ENTERPRISE Computers
ENTERPRISE Programs
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2022.April.24. 17:46:13
Wonderful!
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Tuby128 on 2022.April.26. 12:55:33
 The pictures from SlashNet are SVG Data which is a vectorgraphical format. All the printing company uses this format because it is scalable to almost any size. Before printing it will be rasterzed to dots. So the inkjet printer can put small dots on the paper.
  The rasterisation is one way process, a rasterized image cannot be converted to vector, that's why scanning a printed image does not help to reprint it.
  The only way to get back the original vectorgraphical picture is, to redraw it.

 The other problem is, that the resterized dots (made by inkjet printer) are placed in a random pattern. Every color placed in a different place (the 3 main color i mean) so a high resolution scan would show a lot of dots on a screen, which has to be blurred first.

 I am telling this informations, because someone threw up the idea to reproduce original box of the EP.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2022.April.26. 14:48:40
Scanned polygraphic image can be improved, but the image of the computer will still come out worse than the original.
For excellent results you need either original photos or newly made ones (in which case the picture will be slightly different).


Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Zoldalma on 2022.June.27. 07:43:54
Enterprise UK keyboard layout for keyboard-layout-editor.com (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com). Copy this JSON code to "Raw data" tab.

Code: [Select]
[{y:0.5,x:0.5,c:"#0f3679",t:"#ffffff",w:1.75},"FUNCTION 1",{w:1.75},"FUNCTION 2",{w:1.75},"FUNCTION 3",{w:1.75},"FUNCTION 4",{w:1.75},"FUNCTION 5",{w:1.75},"FUNCTION 6",{w:1.75},"FUNCTION 7",{w:1.75},"FUNCTION 8",{x:0.25,c:"#08602d"},"HOLD",{c:"#ff182c",w:1.5},"STOP"],
[{x:0.25,c:"#08602d",w2:0.75,h2:0.75,x2:0.25,y2:0.25,l:true},"ESC",{c:"#5a5a5a",f:6},"!\n1","\"\n2","£\n3","$\n4","%\n5","&\n6","´\n7","(\n8",")\n9","_\n0","=\n-","~\n^",{c:"#08602d",f:3,w:1.5},"ERASE",{w:1.5},"DEL","INS"],
[{x:0.25,w:1.5},"TAB",{c:"#5a5a5a",f:6},"Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","`\n@","{\n[",{x:0.25,c:"#08602d",f:3,h:2,w2:1.25,h2:1,x2:-0.25},"Enter"],
["CTRL","LOCK",{c:"#5a5a5a",f:6},"A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L","+\n;","*\n:","}\n]",{x:2.5,a:7},"↑"],
[{c:"#08602d",a:4,f:3,w:1.5},"SHIFT",{c:"#5a5a5a",f:6},"|\n\\","Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{c:"#08602d",f:3,w:1.5},"SHIFT","ALT",{x:0.5,c:"#5a5a5a",a:7,f:6},"←",{x:1},"→"],
[{x:3.75,w:8},"",{x:4.75},"↓"]
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: thomas643 on 2023.January.15. 10:55:14
ok, definitely not perfect, but I tried my best ... when printed in cartridge size, it does not look too bad though.[attachimg=1][attachimg=2][attach=2][attach=1] You can improve on that! :-)

Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2023.January.16. 00:43:53
thomas643, I am sorry.
Because of all these chaotic days, I forgot about the label for the cartridge.
Maybe it isn't too perfect: this one of the first labels that I did. I see now it needs for fully rework. But it can be useful at now.
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: thomas643 on 2023.January.16. 09:30:24
that looks really good! :-)
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Zozosoft on 2023.January.18. 12:45:34
Can you also remake the Softcart "Head" label?
It is with two empty socket cartridges.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2023.January.18. 19:26:18
I am afraid that at the moment I will not have enough time to do it. I hope to be free by the summer.

But I have box cover for IS-Lisp with some another head picture. :)
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2023.January.18. 20:05:03
I hope so too.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Herbert123 on 2023.January.29. 01:03:20
Does anyone happen to know the exact font name of the type used on the original Enterprise keyboard? To anyone's knowledge is a digital version available?
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2023.January.29. 13:30:35
In this same thread: https://enterpriseforever.com/other-topics/logos-labels-and-other-pics-for-printing-or-editing/msg61080/#msg61080
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Herbert123 on 2023.January.30. 08:50:09
Thank you! I wasn't certain whether that was the exact font, so thanks for confirming.

I actually have access to the Bitstream foundry via my work, and checked the font today. Interestingly enough the 0 (zero) used on the Enterprise keyboard is different (uses the programmer's slashed zero). The original Bitstream font does not include it, so it must have been a custom glyph (I assume).

Using FontForge & PhotoLine I fixed that:

(https://i.ibb.co/kH52JkZ/2023-01-29-23-42-36-1.png) (https://ibb.co/NVt2rQR)

Now for obvious legal reasons this is only a quick fix done at home.
But since the Geometric Slab Serif typeface itself is not copyrighted, I plan on printing each of the font's glyphs on A4s (which is copyrighted), then scan in the letters, and draw the font myself.

I intend to call it EE Geometric Slab Medium (EE=Elan Enterprise). I can then share the font here.
It may take a few weeks to finish this.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: gflorez on 2023.January.30. 09:55:20
Great!

Maybe you can modify also the Octin Prison regular font (https://enterpriseforever.com/other-topics/logos-labels-and-other-pics-for-printing-or-editing/msg61113/#msg61113) to make the similar Enterprise Logo font.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Czo on 2023.April.05. 22:59:05
Some EP logos in SVG format

Did you have an SVG version of the EXDOS variant? Similar to this (http://enterprise.iko.hu/brochures/ENTERPRISE_EXDOS_logo.jpg).
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2023.April.06. 10:01:23
I can make it this evening.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: SlashNet on 2023.April.06. 21:43:32
Here EXDOS logo in PNG and SVG formats.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Czo on 2023.April.08. 11:36:14
Here EXDOS logo in PNG and SVG formats.

Thanks mate.
Title: Re: Logos, labels and other pics for printing or editing
Post by: Czo on 2023.April.08. 13:46:18
I will try to print it tomorrow :)