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Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« on: 2008.July.07. 14:21:11 »
Hello Jimmy, welcome in our forum!
I see you are from Ukraine, it is great! We long time waited for anyone from the ex-Soviet Union!

What do you know about the Enterprise story in the SU?

We know from a interview with the director of the Hungarian Enterprise Distribution, about 3000 machines sold in the SU. Mostly used as school computer. And planed to assembly Enterprise machines in SU, but I think it is never realized.


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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #1 on: 2008.July.07. 16:48:35 »
...What do you know about the Enterprise story in the SU?

We know from a interview with the director of the Hungarian Enterprise Distribution, about 3000 machines sold in the SU. Mostly used as school computer. And planed to assembly Enterprise machines in SU, but I think it is never realized.

Hello, all,
I didn't expect that ENTERPRISE can be so popular today - it's a wondering :)
My one is from Hungary - we lived in BudaPest some years, when I was at school :) With the help of some mates we've gave strong concurrency to Commodores guys  :lol:
That years ENTERPRISEs enters SU with the help of people, who visit Hungary. Among advantages (low price, excellent technical features) there was one disadvantage - a little number of software products. Therefore, a lot of computers went to second-hand stores in a complete with some games tapes. By the way, that times, second-hands was the only way to buy E in SU.
In the beginning of 90th, there was an enthusiastic group in "Machinery to Youth" (an magazine, which published in Moscow), which tries to give a popularity to E. They stay as importer for E, peripherals, software and documentation. Also, they print articles with dumps of small programs they wrote, EXOS & IS-BASIC documentation & examples of how to use it, make lotteries & more. I saw near 12 (one year subscription) number of magazines, in which there were some pages dedicated to E. But there was more.
Maybe that guys bought all ware from H. E. D. ? But as far as I remember, it was German' supplier.
That years I've hear rumors 'bout E in school, but I've never known was that truth. There were neither Google, nor internet :lol:
Later, after 2000, I've tried to email sometimes to magazine's editorials, to find out where all that was, but haven't any responses :( Their modern site doesn't contain anything related to E.

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #2 on: 2008.July.08. 11:24:20 »
My one is from Hungary - we lived in BudaPest some years, when I was at school :)
Great :-)
Details of your machine are welcomed to the Your Enterprise configuration? topic
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With the help of some mates we've gave strong concurrency to Commodores guys  :lol:
The old good wars :) currently Intel vs. AMD, Nvidia vs. Ati, Windows vs. Linux and etc :-)

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They stay as importer for E, peripherals, software and documentation. Also, they print articles with dumps of small programs they wrote, EXOS & IS-BASIC documentation & examples of how to use it, make lotteries & more. I saw near 12 (one year subscription) number of magazines, in which there were some pages dedicated to E.
These are released in Russian? Do you have any of these?
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That years I've hear rumors 'bout E in school, but I've never known was that truth.
Now I readed again the mentoined Hungarian interview, it is talking about schools in Kazakhstan.

When I searched the internet about the Enterprise I found some Russian forums where talking about the Enterprise 128. But I not understood what :(

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #3 on: 2008.July.08. 17:02:06 »
...These are released in Russian? Do you have any of these?...
No, it seems to be ordinal English or German (with two langs error messages) computers. Later, that guys burned Cyrillic fonts in EXOS ROM (chars 128-159, capital and small letters, but only that, which are different in glypth from latin). I haven't such computer, however I've tried to win it in their lottery, but I've responded too late.
...it is talking about schools in Kazakhstan...
They're lucky! Meanwhile, the most popular enthusiastic computer in ex-SU was Spectrum. There are many radio and computer amateurs, who has constructed Speccies by their hands. Many small enterprises developed their own PCB versions and some kind of extensions. Guess, how many of them know, what means "ENTERPRISE" ?  :)
...When I searched the internet about the Enterprise I found some Russian forums where talking about the Enterprise 128. But I not understood what :(
You can post me the links to that messages, and I will translate them in-brief. However, only 1-to-1000 targets from google results by "E..." leads to some E-related. I's a very-very rare now  :) At now, google filled with Sun Enterprise Servers, and others...

Sometime later, I would find all numbers from mentioned magazine, and would know (may be) where all that stuff has comes...

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #4 on: 2008.July.08. 21:09:06 »

It's the cover of the near-the-first issue of "Machinery to Youth" magazine, which contain E-related material.

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #5 on: 2008.July.08. 21:34:20 »
It's the cover of the near-the-first issue of "Machinery to Youth" magazine, which contain E-related material.
Woooooowwwww!!!! Fantastic!!!!!!
Want to see the articles!

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #6 on: 2008.July.14. 21:19:49 »
Jimmy,

Do you have another picture of the cover as I cant see it ?

(welcome to the site by the way !!)

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #7 on: 2008.July.14. 21:43:14 »
There is the picture:
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(I saved from the original link)

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #8 on: 2008.July.14. 21:53:49 »
Thanks Zozo !!

Can anyone translate into English?

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #9 on: 2008.July.18. 21:38:38 »
...Can anyone translate into English?...
There is a title "Machinery to Youth" at the top, and "Win the chase with the five-headed Questionnaire, and the ENTERPRISE world will be opened to You (competition terms on p. 1)".

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #10 on: 2008.November.05. 00:07:42 »
Russian forum, anyone understood it?

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #11 on: 2008.December.14. 21:39:00 »
I understand (i'm from Russia).
first message about Enterprise from user "Vuego", the quote in message from ru.wikipedia.
second message about article from this site. It's about Enterprise in UK, in Hungar, and small text in USSR.
I can find magazine "Machinery to Youth" if you need it..
PS: my English is bad, i fogot it :)

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #12 on: 2008.December.14. 21:43:39 »
I understand (i'm from Russia)
Welcome here!

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I can find magazine "Machinery to Youth" if you need it..
Yes we want it!
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PS: my English is bad, i fogot it :)
No problem!

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Re: Enterprise in the ex-Soviet countries
« Reply #14 on: 2010.February.09. 09:31:00 »
Hi! I'm Enterprise 128 owner from Russia.
This is my first computer and i'm very glad to read this forum :)
I received EP on a 8 year bithday in 1988 from father. During the first year i got around 50 games for EP from Father's friend. It was imposibble to find any other sources of hardware or software in my region for EP so i moved to more popular ZX-Spectrum in 1993. Horever i still love EP.