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New Bus Expander, how to use it.
« on: 2019.January.21. 14:21:25 »
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I want to give you some recommendations of use for the Bus Expander on its second version, but if you find difficult to understand this, please ask Zozo about how to prepare the Bus Expander to work with your classic card expansions.

This card is a modern copy of the Hungarian made Bus Expander designed long ago by Gyula Mészáros, but with a particularity: by default the cards plugged in the slots will feed its +5v from the 7805 regulator fitted in the Bus Expander from pins 4A/B of the connector.

But all the classic Hungarian expansion cards have its own 7805 regulator and they will not work directly, so you have to do a modification on the bottom side of the Bus Expander. The slots come unconnected from +9v on the 33A/B pins of the connector, but there are a selector at the bottom side on every slot to permit this only joining two cooper pads with a drop of tin. Then, the modified slot will be only used for a classic expansion.

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Previously, you have to solder a DIL row of pins on the EDGE male connector of your classic card expansion. I will distribute the Bus Expansions only fitted with DIL connectors. But there are on the card holes to solder EDGE connectors, not provided by me.

The Enterprise power supply comes on +9v 2Amp or 1,3Amp variants, so, when all the equipment is connected, if you experience undulations on the screen, probably you need to connect a secondary power supply on the Bus Extension auxiliary power connector.

Also, every 7805 regulator can feed up to 1Amp of current, and this can be insufficient to feed the three slots when all of them being populated. This doesn't applies to slots modified for classic expansions as they produce its own +5v. The rear connector also doesn't count, it only feeds from +9v.

To overcome this I recommend to substitute the 7805 regulator that comes installed (the chip with screw and heat sink) with a 2Amp TracoPower regulator(I don`t recommend the 1Amp variant, of similar price):  https://hu.rs-online.com/web/p/kapcsolas-szabalyozo-es-kiegeszito/1616642/



The chip has the same pinout than the 7805, and I have used it for decades on my Enterprises without problems. This chip works at ambient temperature, is more energy efficient and doesn't burn your fingers...

On this second version of the Bus Expander, holes have been added to fit an array of 4,7K pull ups to the Data bus, to overcome some problems of shadow segments when a Ram expansion or Turbo mode are fitted to the computer. You can see the pads zone near the expansion connector.

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« Last Edit: 2019.January.21. 15:19:25 by gflorez »

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Re: New Bus Expander, how to use it.
« Reply #1 on: 2019.January.21. 17:21:18 »
Would not it be better to publish this material on the wiki ?
It will be easier to find and edit.

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Re: New Bus Expander, how to use it.
« Reply #2 on: 2019.January.21. 17:29:39 »
Yes, you are absolutely right...

I will put this and other material on the wiki, but probably I will need your aid to format the content.

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Re: New Bus Expander, how to use it.
« Reply #3 on: 2019.January.21. 17:46:47 »
No problema :)

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Re: New Bus Expander, how to use it.
« Reply #4 on: 2019.January.21. 18:47:05 »
I have opened the titles. By now only in English.

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Re: New Bus Expander, how to use it.
« Reply #6 on: 2019.January.21. 19:43:35 »
Thanks... It is a good start point.

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Re: New Bus Expander, how to use it.
« Reply #7 on: 2019.January.22. 17:42:45 »
I have added some juicy information to the wiki.

If someone finds errors, please, I would like to correct them.
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Re: New Bus Expander, how to use it.
« Reply #8 on: 2022.December.13. 11:46:26 »
Need one of these, anyone selling? is this an open project? Who to contact even for a pcb.
Thank you!

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Re: New Bus Expander, how to use it.
« Reply #9 on: 2022.December.13. 13:03:39 »
I still have some PCBs. I provide them mounted but I call sell you a bare one if you want. I am authorized to sell them, but it is a private design.

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Re: New Bus Expander, how to use it.
« Reply #10 on: 2022.December.14. 17:17:26 »
Perfect I’ll send you a pm for a pcb, it’s for my personal use so no need anything else.