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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #15 on: 2019.February.17. 19:56:07 »
Really, the list of specs is important to Hans.

What if somebody creates a similar thread on the Hungarian side?

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #16 on: 2019.March.06. 18:15:39 »
Hans, from TMTLogic, has released a preliminary manual for the CPC SymbiFace. All its functions can be managed from simply Basic, like on his other creations.

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #17 on: 2019.March.18. 00:35:58 »
Yesterday, the anual SymbOS developers meeting was held at Kirchen(Germany). The main point was the imminent release of the SimbiFace3 for the CPC range of computers.

Hans wrote:

It was nice in Kirchen.

Jorn(Prodatron), sos, sinning, and tfm now have version 2.1(of SymbiFace 3).

Now we have 4 weeks for test it and fix bugs.


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We must  talk about an adapter(temporary, only for testing purposes) between CPC and Enterprise soon, then you can use the SF3 on the Enterprise.



About this I want to concrete where the SYMbiFace3 ports will go on the Enterprise.

On the planed SymbiFace3 for MSX the 20-27 ports are used for SE-ONE  and 40-4F for the SF3. On the CPC range they can use 16bit ports addressing, so they have taken FF20-FF27 and FD40-FD4F  ranges  to avoid collisions with old hardware.

Using FF20-FF27 and FD40-FD4F on a MSX computing is like using 20-27 and 40-4F, because only the lower byte is used, so it can be easy for Prodatron to unify every app used by SymbiFace3 on SymBOS.

We have a problem on the Enterprise with the 40-4F range, it is used by the Spectrum emulator. But we also have a problem with 16bit port addressing, as we can only use 14bit addressing, and only on "virgin" ports, because Dave's pagination corrupts bits 14 and 15, and traditionally the classic hardware have only used the lower byte, producing mirror ports on all the 16bit boundaries.

If we still opt to use the 14bit port addressing we can't use the FFXX or FDXX range as on the CPCs.

In this situation, Prodatron will be forced to modify all the code to suit our computer apps versions, because the SymbiFace3 ports need to be moved to an unused range on an Enterprise.

Or we can use the same 40-4F range for SF3, knowing that it will not work at the same time with the Spectrum Emulator.

What do you think?

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Another doubt. By now I can easily manage the SE-ONE and GFX-NINE MSX cartridges from IS-Basic, because I use 8bit port addressing, but I don't know if IS-Basic will cope with 16bit port addressing.
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #18 on: 2019.March.18. 20:16:09 »
I think most of us can live without the hw Spectrum Emulator compatibility :-) It is also need a modernized version (with GAL or CPLD), then easy to move to other address, just need a recompile the ROM.

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #19 on: 2019.March.18. 20:36:39 »
I agree, but I didn't want to force other users. I thing that the SymbiFace3 can offer a lot more to us if it shares the same ports on the three platforms, MSX, CPC and Enterprise.

I am going to say it to Hans. Thanks.

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #20 on: 2019.April.10. 12:23:39 »
I've just received the SF3 for CPC. It is an earlier version, without WIFi and MP3, but good to interface and test on the Enterprise.

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #21 on: 2019.April.11. 21:21:13 »
SF3 Working!

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #22 on: 2019.April.12. 05:47:22 »
Where do you get so much time to play ? Envy :shock:

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #23 on: 2019.April.12. 08:20:45 »
On lunch time..... I have my Enterprises at work....
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #24 on: 2019.April.12. 09:48:30 »
Where do you get so much time to play ?
I think the days much longer in Spain :lol:

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #25 on: 2019.April.12. 11:12:43 »
This adapter has taken me less time, I had the PCB and connectors made the day before yesterday.

I had luck with the leads yesterday, whitout errors and only some pull-ups.

I use sections of connectors to make my dirty prototypes...
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #26 on: 2019.April.12. 11:21:33 »
Dirty, beauty ... the most important that it's working.