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SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« on: 2018.October.27. 14:12:42 »
Hans Tillema, from TMTLogic, commited by Prodatron, is on the final stages of development of  an all in one card for CPC computers named SymbiFace in his third reincarnation.

It will have the following features:

"Do you think there is a demand for this card for the Enterprise?
will cost around € 89

2mb ram
512kb rom flasable
mp3
codec voip
tmtnet
rtc
oled
fat32 usb stick
usb mouse

and more.."

"I have forgotten
wifi
sd card for roms an internal storage"
« Last Edit: 2018.October.27. 16:43:52 by gflorez »

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #1 on: 2018.October.27. 14:21:39 »
"Do you think there is a demand for this card for the Enterprise?
will cost around € 89

Now, that's a bit of a silly question with an obvious answer: YES

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #2 on: 2018.October.27. 15:38:35 »
YESYESYESYESYESYESYES!! :)

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #3 on: 2018.October.27. 20:14:25 »
Gflorez from Spain, Tofro from Germany, Weirdocollector from Italy. Great to see people here from all over the world.

Is Symbiface the name of the card? My first thought was using Facebook with SymbOS but I don't think it is true. :D
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #4 on: 2018.October.27. 20:24:12 »
Yes :)

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #5 on: 2018.October.27. 21:25:41 »
Simply, if you search "symbiface" on Google you can find a description of the former version, SimbiFace II.

There wasn't a first version, but something named CPC IDE made by a German developer named DR. ZED aided by CPC users Octoate, TFM and Tolkin.

The SymbiFace II was a modernization of the CPC IDE, committed by Prodatron to DR. ZED.

All the features of the SymbiFace II where implemented on the CPC port of SymbOS, so this time Prodatron will do the same with the added characteristics.

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #6 on: 2018.October.28. 05:29:13 »
Will this use the USB-stick as a mass storage device? If so, I'm interested in one, as have still no SD-card interface for my beloved EP...
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #7 on: 2018.October.28. 05:46:25 »
The answer is YES :-D

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #8 on: 2018.October.28. 19:08:22 »
Hans adds this:

"The final shape of the SymbiFace for the Enterprise will be dependent on what you want, with which ICs will it be built.

The firmware for the CPC is almost ready to test so, I think that  the development for the Enterprise will also be brief.

I will need a lot of information and help writing the Enterprise ROMs and applications, however, the CPC Z80 source code will be available from the developers.

I could also add a second SD card and, if 2mb Ram is not so important, I can add more memory for Roms. I can adjust it.

I also can remove the USB mouse as you have your own standard, and possibly these changes will make the card cheaper.

The goal is to not reach more expensive than the quoted price"

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #9 on: 2019.February.04. 16:08:08 »
This a Youtube video where Hans shows us the SymbiFace CPC nearly finished.

He will present it on a CPC convention in March this year. He claims that once done he will have the 95% of the work done for the Enterprise SymbiFace....

List of the specs:

Microcontroller:    Cortex -M7 216 MHZ
RAM:        2 MB
ROM/FLASH        2 MB
USB Host         Hid Mouse
USB Host         Fat32 mass storage device
AUDIO         MP3 Player
AUDIO         recorder  / prepare for VOIP
WIFI        IOT moudule / MQTT
RTC         +Battery
VU        stereo level indicator
CPC 464        Extern memory hack
JTAG        onboard
MEASUREMENTS    Power 5v, ARM temp, RTC batt
SD Card        for internal system storage        
OLED
BUZZER

Prodatron is busy with the SymbOS drivers.
« Last Edit: 2019.February.04. 17:27:53 by gflorez »

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #10 on: 2019.February.06. 09:23:13 »
Good stuff! :)
We are waiting for the Enterprise version :D

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #11 on: 2019.February.06. 09:51:59 »
I'm very like the sound leds! :-)

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #12 on: 2019.February.16. 23:23:09 »
I didn't understand Hans on his list.... he was asking.....


 He proposes us now:

what are your wishes....

No usb hid

No ram

Usb msd?

Wifi?

Seone

Mp3

Or anothee hardware

Lcd big screen or oled

Tft

Ir

Infra red remote

Sound dsp

Radio

HAHA


He want us to  debate to put or remove devices on the SymbiFace list, you even can propose other or others. The SymbiFace for Enterprise can be even more complete than the CPC version. A new project that will take advantage of his previous work.

SymbiFace for CPC has, for example an USB HID, that means a way to connect a lot of control devices to the computer, including mice, keyboards, joysticks and more. This is more necessary on a CPC, that doesn't have a mouse standard due to the lack of +5v on the joystick ports. Prodatron will give support on SymbOS to HID, but on EXOS we would need a new driver for every demanded device. Do we need HID?

About memory, Hans can add it on all its forms, but, how much?

SE-ONE(MP3) included, of course..... with Radio.... and DSP.

USB MSD(massive storage device), of course...

WIFI... it can be amazing.... or unnecessary?

He also proposes a LCD, OLED or TFT display to see what we have set on the interface.

IR(Infra Red control) . With it we could use the interface as a stand alone Hifi set while we do another different thing on the Enterprise... Interesting, but not my priority.



What are your more craved desires?(reasonable please).

Edit: one option I would add is, at the same time direct connexion and as expansion on a Bus Expander. To do this only is needed +5v generation on the PCB.
« Last Edit: 2019.February.17. 00:05:21 by gflorez »

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #13 on: 2019.February.17. 09:25:53 »
Quote
The answer is YES :-D

Most probably, the question for this answer was about EXOS and not SymbOS.

Am I correct ?

So yes, the storages can be used by SymbOS,
but maybe the question was about ordinary EXOS/EXDOS usage for loading ordinary (not SymbOS based) stuff (,as well).
« Last Edit: 2019.February.17. 09:32:28 by Z80System »
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #14 on: 2019.February.17. 09:52:00 »
Thanks to Zozo, having a driver for another massive storage is the easier of all the aspects.