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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #225 on: 2021.February.23. 14:47:30 »
We are busy with a MIDI adaptor for the Enterprise
https://youtu.be/YXQ2acY_SA0
Is it a standalone stuff, or requires sf3 interface?
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #226 on: 2021.February.23. 21:26:53 »
Yes, it needs to connect to the rear of the SF3, sorry....

Hans has designed it to sit on one of the slots on the Bus expander(CPC or EP), but it only draws +5v and ground from the slot. I think it can work even with 3X1,5v cells or with an external +5v power supply. It is a good idea to put it on a box near the SF3 adapter.

Fist I will try the PCB on a little batch of 5 interfaces, if it is error free, Hans will release the gerbers(the PCB design to order from China).  

We think it is the best solution, because it is easy to build and the parts can be found on every country. We all will save on shipping.

Maybe Zozo wants to produce the Midi interface for  Hungarian users. I will make it for the Spanish and near countries users and Hans for the rest.

Of course, other solutions will be welcomed.

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #227 on: 2021.February.23. 21:33:13 »

I advise you not to make too many Midi interfaces. because I am already working on the successor of the SF3. the RSF3
this RSF3 has a MIDI interface on board as standard

It is not yet clear when the Enterprise version will be released, the CPC version must work first.
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #228 on: 2021.March.01. 16:48:27 »
I have published two new short videos about the SF3 development. This time is again about Midi, but with a difference. Scoretrack, the program inside the Rom of the never released Enterprise MIDI cartridge interface, was able to play some already made songs(MIDI OUT), but has limited use because its editor is broken, and we don't have an external song converter for it.

Then I thought about some software from CPC or MSX, but first their standard MIDI interfaces have to be emulated by the SF3.

Starting from the CPC scene, there are some MIDI interfaces, but only one is totally documented and with software: EMR Miditrack Performer, with the same UART chip used than the Enterprise MIDI interface attempt.

Some weeks ago Hans managed to emulate the EMR CPC interface on the SF3, so I asked Hans the same on the Enterprise SF3. Then I passed the EMR Miditrack Performer software to Geco, that has managed to convert it at least to work on his own CPCemu. This is what you will see on the videos, Hans&Geco's magic.

The program is slightly faster on the Enterprise, about a 13%, so I have modified the beats per second on it to test it at the side of the CPC...

Don't expect a complete sequencer/player on it..... only weights 8KB, but what it intents to do is correctly done. It works like a cassette player recorder, but for Midi streams instead of sounds. But it can record 8 different tracks, and also mix incoming midi with the data in memory, so it can give a lot of entertainment.

On the other side... again its files aren't standard Midi files, you can't play here your collection of Midi songs. But.... you can record them instead, and then save the songs as EMR files. I have already made the test and it saves  the incoming song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHJ694FttD4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtfeFkSeBTs

I hope that Geco's next step with the software would be a real conversion.




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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #229 on: 2021.March.02. 20:44:41 »
I have published two new short videos about the SF3 development. This time is again about Midi, but with a difference. Scoretrack, the program inside the Rom of the never released Enterprise MIDI cartridge interface, was able to play some already made songs(MIDI OUT), but has limited use because its editor is broken, and we don't have an external song converter for it.
This is fantastic! Gustavo, thank you for this miracle. :smt038 :smt038 :smt038
And to Geco too! I'm looking forward to the MIDI card for SF3 :)

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #230 on: 2021.April.14. 12:09:32 »
First test Midi-Adapter batch almost finished. Price still not fixed.

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Here you can see it managing the next to release EMR Performer program, another fine conversion from Geco.

 


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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #231 on: 2021.April.14. 12:57:02 »
Here
This sounds cool! What is the song? I have heard it.
Geco seems to be a full time developer for the Enterprise which is also great. :D
The only thing I missed during this video is some Spanish speech. :D
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #232 on: 2021.April.14. 13:24:50 »
The song is Van Halen's "Jump!", still a pleasurable sound nowadays, not like the group aspect and behaviour on the video... Here in Spain we call it "verguenza ajena", something like self embarrassment from others' attitude...



Edit: I am not criticizing the long hair nor the clothing they use, but I am against the use of drugs on public. Some of the members are visibly stoned(doped) on this video, and from my point of view it is not a good influence for children.
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #233 on: 2022.March.31. 11:54:56 »
A new update has been released.

It corrects a multitude of errors and also adds a lot of new developer(internal) functions needed for future promising options.

You can find the DFU file on the usual place on the Drive. Remember also to update the CPLD. You have instructions to update just in case you don't remember how. Ask me any doubt.

There is also an HEX file that contains the same update but uses a new program to upgrade the SF3 named Cube Programmer. ST recommends to migrate to the new software, but Hans will continue supporting the old DFU upgrade program.

Don't hesitate to moment any issues you could find.

Thanks.

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #234 on: 2022.March.31. 14:13:36 »
File handling of SF3BOOT ROM will not work with USB, because file handling changed a bit in the new DFU, i will create new SF3BOOT ROM.

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #235 on: 2022.March.31. 15:18:46 »
I better remove the update, then Hans will include your new  Rom in it.
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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #236 on: 2022.October.19. 11:49:44 »
I tried to update my SF3 to SF3_EP_20221005.dfu what I got from Geco but don't work. I executed both DFU and CPLD update process. At power on write a ERR, and no Wifi, no RAM, no ROMs, just the built in SF3 ROM present. If I switch back to 2021 January DFUs (what I have saved), then working. Tried many times install the 2022 October DFU, still not working. I noticed when install 2021 January DFUs, at the first poweron start a long Downloading procedure. Probably updating CPLD? With 2022 DFU no Downloading, just ERR... Probably something changed between 2021 January and 2022 October... Where are collection of ALL DFUs? Probably need to install step-by-step 2021 January, 2021 February, 2021 March, 2021 April, etc, etc, etc...

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #237 on: 2022.October.19. 13:35:03 »
You can find the DFU file on the usual place on the Drive.
I found two DFUs here.
20210226 working.
20220328 not working (ERR).

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #238 on: 2022.October.19. 20:22:53 »
I tried to update my SF3 to SF3_EP_20221005.dfu what I got from Geco but don't work.

Is that a public version or is the latest official still the latest version on google drive: 20220328?

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Re: SymbiFace3 is near your Enterprise...
« Reply #239 on: 2022.October.20. 06:23:18 »
Zozo found the solution: On the latest updates it is actually necessary to have the pen-drive plugged at boot. This was not the usual behaviour on earlier updates.

Soon a fixed version will be available that will not trigger an error when the pen-drive is not plugged(not aborting further execution of the INI file), but still is recommendable to have it plugged on the very first boot after an update, because some needed files may be automatically downloaded from the TMT web page.

The next "proper" update release will bring other juicy new features that Hans and Geco are working on.... This is the reason of the beta update from Geco that Zozo was trying.
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