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Looking for EP128
« on: 2014.November.14. 16:17:40 »
Is This one ok ? Seems nice buy one.
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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #1 on: 2014.November.14. 16:34:27 »
Is This one ok ? Seems nice buy one.
it is broken, and internal joystick also :(

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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #2 on: 2014.November.14. 17:01:12 »
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it is broken, and internal joystick also :(

Yes, that is not in a working condition, and the owner will it handle only by personally, not posting.

But I do not understand this ... there are EPs on vatera just now, two of them, and both are approx. 300-350 usd ...

A year ago maximum two years ago, 150 usd EP was a very expensive one ... 6-8 month ago I bought a full-extra version of them on a price like 150 usd ...

Is this a temporary result or a tendency ?
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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #3 on: 2014.November.14. 18:05:24 »
Yes, that is not in a working condition, and the owner will it handle only by personally, not posting.

But I do not understand this ... there are EPs on vatera just now, two of them, and both are approx. 300-350 usd ...

A year ago maximum two years ago, 150 usd EP was a very expensive one ... 6-8 month ago I bought a full-extra version of them on a price like 150 usd ...

Is this a temporary result or a tendency ?

I don't hope so. I will look from time to time on that website. If there is something that is not to expansive I will ask here. Because my Hungarian is not so good.. and google translate is very bad in translation Hungarian.
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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #4 on: 2014.November.14. 18:08:50 »

I see flag of Netherlands at your name. This is interesting because I think many Enterprise users at your country, we have many issues of Dutch Enterprise magazines. Look at the collection.

If you really want one, then I have some spares...
The next model planed with built in, but it is never released :cry:

Wow crazy !! that link to the Dutch magazines!! very nice collection! .. and I can read them easily. It seems there was a Enterprise community after all.. but I never heard about it!
If you are willing to sell a Enterprise to me (if I can't find one) just drop me a mail : evanzanten (AT) home.nl
Maybe we can agree on something... 
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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #5 on: 2014.November.14. 18:23:21 »
Wow crazy !! that link to the Dutch magazines!! very nice collection! .. and I can read them easily.
There is the business! If you translate these magazines to English then I give a Enterprise 128 to you. What do you think?

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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #6 on: 2014.November.14. 23:21:33 »
There is the business! If you translate these magazines to English then I give a Enterprise 128 to you. What do you think?

Wow this is an amazing offer you do for the Enterprise community. I just converted one PDF document to a word document
and using a OCR scanning tool to get real text. That works not bad but seems like a lot of work to translate. ;)

If I count the pages it's around 250 pages.

I took for example the second magazine and took the first paragraph:


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In front of you lies the February number of the DEUG (Dutch enterprise users Group) from 1987. It is the second number that the new editor did create for you guys. There was a lot of nice responses on the first magazine! We are very happy with that but we would like to see responses in the form of articles. Of course writing articles is a task that cost a lot of time, the editor also has trouble with it ;) Especially to write something sensible and you don't want to write something that everyone already knows. What you see as ' logical ' or ' normal ' is for the other very complex. The different is that someone is an expert and the other not. But do not hesitate to send any questions, though they seem unimportant, it's better to share. We have enough EXPERTS to answer them.In the section 'ENTER and RETURN' you can see the incoming questions.


That took me around 30 minutes to translate ;) (to make normal sentence building lines, and to understand the text)



This is how Google translate (without modifications) does the rest of the first page:

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There are many enterprise users who have BASIC will have to learn and there you can not arrive with phrases like ' there SChrljf je.in GENE tach evsn a drlvertJe for ' (literally heard on the user group meeting) so there is not even a ' simple ' PEEK at. To LOCATE the ' A's ~- r3mseqmenten ~ extenslons and ~ 6UGB. system-SCAPE-sequences ' but not to speak. So make sure you submit a piece of, also for when that occurs on the use and sufficient explanation in on the operation. Do this simple and don't use jargon! There are people afraid of getting a piece of writing because they have no good far-pick up can write then it gives this not because the editor is with the witkwast over it. So even the worst taalvauten are look like ge-retrieves! You have no subject and if you want to write, then make a story about what you do with your ENTERPRISE then you can in the section MY ENTERPRISE. Also drawings or pretty pictures are welcome. You can then even on the front and you may yourself choose the color. You can also copy for the APRIL issue of compromise on the user group meeting 14 March. The copy is then directly on the floppy from the editor copied. When you submit copy do it on a strap or Usman than the editor need not talking about tapping because that gives way too much work. Computers are not invented for nothing! Do you have enough postage ($ 2.25) for returning your strap or Usman. You can also retrieve a user group meeting.



As you can see it's horrible to read ;)

So.... I like your offer and it's very noble .. but I think it costs me a lot of time to do this task. So if it is possible I prefer just to buy one Enterprise for money ;)
BUT... don't get me wrong, I would like to translate this magazines for you, it seems like a time consuming task.. so I don't want to feel any pressure and I just
want to do it when I have some time left, so just, sometimes,  for example, a page a day so in the end we have everything translated. So I can do it at my own pace, so that it doesn't feel like work and I have fun to work on it.. without time schedule ;) without deadline ;)
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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #7 on: 2014.November.15. 00:51:59 »
Very intelligent. Don't worry for Zozo. His second name is patience...

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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #8 on: 2014.November.15. 11:23:48 »
As you can see it's horrible to read ;)
Yes, I already tried OCR and Google translate :oops:

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So if it is possible I prefer just to buy one Enterprise for money ;)
Ok. What are your needs?
Boxed, original state fro collection? Or for using, enought just the machine, and some hw hacks possible (for example upgraded EXOS) for the better usage?

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want to do it when I have some time left, so just, sometimes,  for example, a page a day so in the end we have everything translated. So I can do it at my own pace, so that it doesn't feel like work and I have fun to work on it.. without time schedule ;) without deadline ;)
If you do it then we are will very happy and thankful!

Note: after you do the English translation then I will do the Hungarian translation, for the Hungarian community.

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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #9 on: 2014.November.15. 13:59:55 »
Yes, I already tried OCR and Google translate :oops:
Ok. What are your needs?
Boxed, original state fro collection? Or for using, enought just the machine, and some hw hacks possible (for example upgraded EXOS) for the better usage?
If you do it then we are will very happy and thankful!

Note: after you do the English translation then I will do the Hungarian translation, for the Hungarian community.

haha .. I was already searching for my posts this morning but you moved it ;) Very good .. as it very off- topic!
About the enterprise. I don't know if it is possible. But I would like one (With English keyboard) to play around with SymbOS. So I need a memory expansion I suppose ? But I have no idea if those are rare or not ?

About the translation. Maybe it's a good idea that I open a new post and that I just posts  some chapters now and then.. so in the end we have everything in English.
I have to say, that it seems that all small magazines from a small club. So I don't know if it make sense to translate all the articles or just the once that are Enterprise related.
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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #10 on: 2014.November.15. 14:15:51 »
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haha .. I was already searching for my posts this morning but you moved it ;) Very good .. as it very off- topic!

Yes, Zozo does that, but he only moves and arranges those to the more appropriate place.

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So I need a memory expansion I suppose ?

SymbOS will run on 128K machines but you can only run 1 or 2 programs at once.

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But I have no idea if those are rare or not ?

Saint's memory expansions are available at "any time" as far as I know. He can provide 512K and 1024K versions of that.
But currently (he is designing external expansion too, but that is not available now) you have to assemble that expansion into the enterprise.
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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #11 on: 2014.November.15. 19:45:02 »
Yes, Zozo does that, but he only moves and arranges those to the more appropriate place.

SymbOS will run on 128K machines but you can only run 1 or 2 programs at once.

Saint's memory expansions are available at "any time" as far as I know. He can provide 512K and 1024K versions of that.
But currently (he is designing external expansion too, but that is not available now) you have to assemble that expansion into the enterprise.

I know that SymbOS is running on 128k but it's recommended to have more because you need that memory for
some applications. Is the assemble difficult ? I think you need some skills ?
What about disk drive emulator ? Is there something like that also ?
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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #12 on: 2014.November.15. 20:29:39 »
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Is the assemble difficult ? I think you need some skills ?

Not too much, you have to solder out the original 64K expansion from inside (if you use a 128K machine),
and have to solder in the new (much tiny) expansion with the big memory ...

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What about disk drive emulator ? Is there something like that also ?

Zozo did that, too ... But in that case (as far as I know) you have to have an EXDOS card, where you connect the floppy emulator to.

Unfortunately EXDOS cards are rarely things, too. Much more rarely things than EPs themself.
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Re: Looking for EP128
« Reply #13 on: 2014.November.15. 21:33:17 »
Is the assemble difficult ? I think you need some skills ?
Instructions from Saint.
At EP128 need to remove the old 64K expansion.

Other possible way, you buy the expansion from Saint then send to me for build in.