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Offline geco

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Re: Double software emulation on a stock EP128
« Reply #15 on: 2021.January.06. 22:00:01 »
Sorry, i forgot about ROM writing Speccy programs, there are quite lot.

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Re: Double software emulation on a stock EP128
« Reply #16 on: 2021.January.06. 22:00:46 »
Yes, because there are some (about 5-10% ) CPC programs, which uses only ROM calls :-D There is nearly no Speccy programs which uses only ROM calls ;-)

I see!! I will test ZXM with some "lightweight" favorite games of mine, like "Gangsters!", "Stock Market" and "Dictator", to see what happens... These are mostly BASIC proggies, with little/no code included!
I am not sure if ZXM will load on CPCEmu, though... We will find out in the next days!!
If it loads successfully I will take another photo of the EP running a Spectrum game through CPC emulation!!! :D

P.S. I also tried to run "20 Commodes" (the VIC emulator) and Videopac emulator on SPEmu, but they didn't load properly... I guess I was lucky with dr.beep's ZX81 emulator, which runs very-very well!!!
Of course your ZX81emu running "natively" on the EP is faster and more compatible, but I did the double emulation just for fun!
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Re: Double software emulation on a stock EP128
« Reply #17 on: 2021.January.06. 22:16:19 »
There could be more reasons of problem, Spemu checking byte patterns after or before OUT or IN instructions, probably those programs have different byte patterns before or after, other ptoblem is ROM writing, what is used by several Speccy programs ( this can be solved by ROM version of SpEmu), other possible problem is finding things about IM2 interrupt, and probably there is more, just i got to my mind the above mentioned :-D
I got another thing, Nirvana and other programs which are using similar attr refresh method do not work either

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Re: Double software emulation on a stock EP128
« Reply #18 on: 2021.January.07. 11:20:40 »
There could be more reasons of problem, Spemu checking byte patterns after or before OUT or IN instructions, probably those programs have different byte patterns before or after, other ptoblem is ROM writing, what is used by several Speccy programs ( this can be solved by ROM version of SpEmu), other possible problem is finding things about IM2 interrupt, and probably there is more, just i got to my mind the above mentioned :-D
I got another thing, Nirvana and other programs which are using similar attr refresh method do not work either

Oh, these are details that only programmers can understand, I am just a simple user!!
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Re: Double software emulation on a stock EP128
« Reply #19 on: 2021.January.07. 22:59:02 »
I am not sure if ZXM will load on CPCEmu, though... We will find out in the next days!!

So now quoting my own previous words, I am reporting that the attempt to load ZXM on CPEmu was a disaster... :cry:
ZXM is a disk-only program with some hidden data, so I couldn't extract the files, to be able to load them as sound on the EP...

But even if I could do that, I realized that ZXM loads and saves from and to disk only, no tape support at all, so it wouldn't be possible to load any spectrum software without having a disk drive (which I don't)...
So this second idea of mine is totally useless...

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Re: Double software emulation on a stock EP128
« Reply #20 on: 2023.June.02. 19:01:42 »
Opening again this old thread, I'd like to inform anyone interested that Johan "dr beep" Koelman, who is active mostly in the "sinclairzxworld" ZX81 forum has compiled an even more accurate 2.16 version of his emulator on the spectrum and is also working on a ZX80 (!!!) emulator for Spectrum!

I find this impressive and I am looking forward to presenting you here a ZX80 emulated through the fabulous Spemu by geco running on a real EP128!
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